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Old 01-16-2016, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Because they get their full salary regardless of their accuracy. They get paid to produce AGW models, not to produce something that is actually useful. That's a nice job to have. That's like paying a baseball player to bat 0.000.
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Warmest Year on Record Is Still Bad News for Climate Models | Cato @ Liberty


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Old 01-16-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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Ah yes, gotcha journalism that will be debunked shortly, then the debunking of it will be ignored by people who have the attention span of a gnat.

Why would they send it to the guy on a Saturday? Probably because he has the weekend off, and they figure if they can get 48 hours of propaganda coverage before being debunked its a win.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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That chart says that average temperatures have gone up since 1979 but that 3 unnamed prediction models from 1980 predicted a higher warming rate. That chart does not dispute that temperatures are rising.
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Old 01-16-2016, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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That chart says that average temperatures have gone up since 1979 but that 3 unnamed prediction models from 1980 predicted a higher warming rate. That chart does not dispute that temperatures are rising.


No one disputes that temperatures are increasing in the lower Troposphere, and why wouldn`t they be?


We all know the end of the 1970s marked the end of a long cooling trend, so there is no reason temperatures wouldn`t rebound.


Also, refrigerants and propellants, in wide use before the 1987 worldwide ban, have depleted the Ozone layer allowing a greater percentage of UVB radiation to reach the Earth`s surface causing Stratospheric cooling and, to a lesser degree, Tropospheric warming.


Since Ozone depleting chemicals are now banned, the effect they have on the Ozone layer will decrease over time.


For now, I'll enjoy the relatively mild winters.
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Old 01-16-2016, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Because they get their full salary regardless of their accuracy. They get paid to produce AGW models, not to produce something that is actually useful. That's a nice job to have. That's like paying a baseball player to bat 0.000.
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They aren't supposed to be "accurate". They are supposed to show the results the people paying for them wanted. Mission accomplished.
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Old 01-17-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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They aren't supposed to be "accurate". They are supposed to show the results the people paying for them wanted. Mission accomplished.
Exactly. They are paid to produce models and they keep their jobs and government money if those models support idiots like Obama and Gore.
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Old 01-18-2016, 12:06 AM
 
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No-one seems to be questioning why that Cato Institute 'graphic' is using the Middle troposphere data which goes up to 50,000ft. Or why they dishonestly use datasets with different baseline periods without using offsets. Or why they realigned the 'start' of the unnamed models and unnamed datasets to the same point in same time . Or why there are no error bars (there is significant uncertainty with satellite data sets, moreso than with surface datasets.). Or why the dataset sources are not labeled. Or why there is no exlanation of methodology. Or why this 'graphic' has never been published in a Journal.


All very questionable and basically dishonest. If they wanted to be honest, they would compare apples to apples, not apples to porcupines.


Hmmm.. But I guess it served it's purpose.


Some unskeptical people swallow polished 'graphics' like that without question because it's what they want to believe.

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