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Old 02-03-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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How To Stop Rape




And the first comment was :

You've obviously acquainted yourself with Jonathan Swift. Well done.







If you don't know Jonathan Swift, he really did want to use babies as food. No, he really did. ....No I am not kidding. How this person remains in our literature is astonishing...
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Your opinion, but never the opinion of the framers of the Constitution of the United States. Atheists have even been barred from testifying in courts because their testimony would be untrustworthy.
Yes I know that...Atheists have been banned from holding political office in seven backward bible belt states, where we are less trusted than rapists.....It's a great example of how far behind the rest of the developed world the "land of the free" still is....I guess I should be thankful not to be executed for not believing your myths.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: London
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How has he not gotten in trouble for hate speech? That's what this is.

Well in any event, anyone who eats up this guy's tripe should expect a lonely life.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Guy clams to be a practicing Muslim.

Traditional views that wives were property of their husbands predates ISLAM and crosses all religious ideology.

Up to the mid 70's all 50 states included a common exception, marital rape. Took 17 years for all 50 states to address marital rape. Opposistion came primarily from Christian leaders. Even then, 20 states have a very narrow view of marital rape and limit it to a man having sex with his wife while she is unconscious.

There is no shortage of Christians who believe a woman is required to submit to her husband.
Where do you find in Judaism or Christianity that women are the property of their husbands?

I suggest you have no clue what is meant by wives "submitting" to their husbands.

Have you not read, "Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the Church, and gave himself up for her to make her holy." Eph 5:25

And Eph 5:22 says, "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord." That is the kind of submission the Bible talks about. It would be helpful to understand the scriptures rather than to toss out the kind of garbage you have above.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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Guy clams to be a practicing Muslim.

Traditional views that wives were property of their husbands predates ISLAM and crosses all religious ideology.

Up to the mid 70's all 50 states included a common exception, marital rape. Took 17 years for all 50 states to address marital rape. Opposistion came primarily from Christian leaders. Even then, 20 states have a very narrow view of marital rape and limit it to a man having sex with his wife while she is unconscious.

There is no shortage of Christians who believe a woman is required to submit to her husband.

More unsubstantiated gobbledygook and you are a treasure of it.


What follows has nothing to do with my opinion of it being good or bad. Its just the facts. Life was never easy for anyone. Men would be slaughtered and the women enslaved routinely. Men at the top would often thrive( for as long as they could last, see the life of a Roman senator and how often they met a bad fate) , but if they found themselves at the bottom their mobility was limited. Peasants and slave girls on the other had often found themselves in the king's court.
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The marriage contract was a man's goods in exchange for a woman's procreation, which BTW requires sex. It was typically a state institution. I could show you this in the ancient Greek philosophy if you'd like.

Men of course were naturally held in high regard because in order to get them to fight for the state they needed incentives. The was the biggest problem ancient rulers had. They needed men to risk their lives for the state. They promised things same which were delivered and other that were not. Landed gentry descended from the warrior class in the first place. The state also wanted fertility and thus made the institution of marriage.

Now to appropiate a mans's goods without his consent often fall under theft or if continuous is slavery. Yet a quick marriage and divorce as shown this to occur. The reason marriage is now in decline is women can secure a man's goods after a divorce, but he cannot secure her "sex". No surprise the market reacts.

source:
http://www.pbs.org/empires/thegreeks/background/43.html
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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More unsubstantiated gobbledygook and you are a treasure of it.


What follows has nothing to do with my opinion of it being good or bad. Its just the facts. Life was never easy for anyone. Men would be slaughtered and the women enslaved routinely. Men at the top would often thrive( for as long as they could last, see the life of a Roman senator and how often they met a bad fate) , but if they found themselves at the bottom their mobility was limited. Peasants and slave girls on the other had often found themselves in the king's court.
...

The marriage contract was a man's goods in exchange for a woman's procreation, which BTW requires sex. It was typically a state institution. I could show you this in the ancient Greek philosophy if you'd like.

Men of course were naturally held in high regard because in order to get them to fight for the state they needed incentives. The was the biggest problem ancient rulers had. They needed men to risk their lives for the state. They promised things same which were delivered and other that were not. Landed gentry descended from the warrior class in the first place. The state also wanted fertility and thus made the institution of marriage.

Now to appropiate a mans's goods without his consent often fall under theft or if continuous is slavery. Yet a quick marriage and divorce as shown this to occur. The reason marriage is now in decline is women can secure a man's goods after a divorce, but he cannot secure her "sex". No surprise the market reacts.

source:
Greek Women: Marriage and Divorce
Uh, you do know that you live in the years 2016, don't you? Men and women are supposed to be treated equally today.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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Uh, you do know that you live in the years 2016, don't you? Men and women are supposed to be treated equally today.
Wow, clueless. That wasn't even the point as I stated in the first paragraph.

Since you bring it up, they are not.

Man and woman get drunk and have sex. He goes to jail for rape.

Man and woman marry. She more likely wins alimony.

Man registers for draft. She does not.

etc.

Legally speaking there is no question that women are superior under the law.

The argument is that men benefit from social constructs and private social institutions. I don't disagree with this, but it is vastly diminishing. I also suspect that once it disappears entirely , the legal system will continue with the momentum it has.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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These guys need a beat down....

A U.S. “pick up artist,” Daryush Valizadeh, who has published material suggesting rape inside a private home should be legal, is planning a “meetup”. His group, Return of Kings, is hosting gatherings Saturday night in 43 different countries. The intended meeting point in Victoria is the War Memorial statue at the BC Legislature grounds.

Pro-rape

More on this guy... Who is Daryush Valizadeh? Ex-scientist and controversial 'legal rape' head of Return of Kings
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They need to be neutered.
no, what they need is a bullet in the brain.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Assault/ Sexual Assault has a variety of definitions and no two countries ( or states for that matter) define or count it the same way.

This guy is a part of the neo masculine movement, predators who prey on men willing to pay them to learn how to get laid, their right as men.

Some of the message is " makeover". Men are encouraged to get a job, move out of their parents' basements, bathe, work out, eat healthy, dress well, get their hair styled, develop social skills and read social q's with the goal of getting laid.

And in some cases, some of these guys promote a male birth right and " no means yes" ideology.

assault is usually the threat of violence and battery is the committing of the act of violence.
I also do not believe in the "no means yes" ideology. no has always meant no, no matter if it is a woman or a man saying it.
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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Yes I know that...Atheists have been banned from holding political office in seven backward bible belt states, where we are less trusted than rapists.....It's a great example of how far behind the rest of the developed world the "land of the free" still is....I guess I should be thankful not to be executed for not believing your myths.
Going to need a source for this still currently being true.
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