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Wow, clueless. That wasn't even the point as I stated in the first paragraph.
Since you bring it up, they are not.
Man and woman get drunk and have sex. He goes to jail for rape.
Man and woman marry. She more likely wins alimony.
Man registers for draft. She does not.
etc.
Legally speaking there is no question that women are superior under the law.
The argument is that men benefit from social constructs and private social institutions. I don't disagree with this, but it is vastly diminishing. I also suspect that once it disappears entirely , the legal system will continue with the momentum it has.
Pardon my ignorance, but I live in Canada, and that is not how it works here. In Canada the sexes are equal under the law. ....
In Canada we have no fault divorce... Divorce in Canada
Notice that only the term spouse is used here, and alimony (Support in Canada) is as likely to be to the male as the female.
Our laws regarding rape (called sexual assault in Canada) use the word person rather than man or woman.
Sexual assault is defined as sexual contact with another person without that other person's consent. Consent is defined in section 273.1(1) as "the voluntary agreement of the complainant to engage in the sexual activity in question". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault#Canada
I was not aware that the US still drafted people, we do not.
You're absolutely clueless, and as such should find a thread wherein you actually know what you are talking about so that you aren't creating noise in this thread.
I suspect that you may be a member of the Return of Kings group....Am I correct?
Is there a double standard in terms of alcohol and behavior? Absolutely, and we should be able to talk about it in a civil way. But the idea that rape should be legal if it happens on private property... that's not a joke. Those critical of modern feminism (or feminism in general, which still happens) may see this as being a valid statement because it's clearly a reaction to feminism, but think about what's being implied here. Replace woman with child. Replace rape with murder. There aren't ways to frame things like child molestation or just murder in general that leave them as being things you can say and be taken seriously.
Something like this is not funny. I'm a huge fan of humor. I think it disarms tense discussions and makes hard topics easier to talk about, but the thing about humor is that is has to be funny. Saying rape should be legal on private property sarcastically isn't really funny because it's actually a problem. Super conservative religious communities, like the Amish or Orthodox Jews actually do think that things like spousal rape do not exist. It's obviously a huge problem in the Middle East as well (adding that in so the idiots don't try and change the subject, which they will if you bring up a Jesus religion in a negative way). And since these rapes are rarely reported to the police, there's very little we're able to do about them since those communities are often isolated from modern society.
A joke needs to be funny. The idea of legal rape just because it happens in one's own home isn't funny.
A U.S. “pick up artist,” Daryush Valizadeh, who has published material suggesting rape inside a private home should be legal, is planning a “meetup”. His group, Return of Kings, is hosting gatherings Saturday night in 43 different countries. The intended meeting point in Victoria is the War Memorial statue at the BC Legislature grounds.
I cannot stop laughing at how stupid this entire idea is for meetings...in my region they're at a flagpole near Rogers Park or in the parking lot of an Italian restaurant in a southern/southwest suburb. Those seem like good spots for a meeting. What is even funnier is the "code"...“Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” and they respond “Yes, it’s right here.”...they are refer to themselves as animals. Way to think it through.
It is pretty clear they want rape to be legal in private establishment because it is the only way they can get some. It is extremely pathetic and creepy. What a bunch of pseudo-masculine, insincere asshats.
Anyone that believes that accusing people of advocating rape, who are not, is just a POS. Anyone who believes that "rape" entails consensual drunk sex or sex-without-a-contract is just a POS. Anyone who wants to talk about rape laws but isn't interested in the justification of the details of such laws is just a POS.
There are people who genuinely believe that rape should be legal or that spousal rape is not a thing. It's fairly prevalent among very conservative religious communities. This is why I don't consider his satire to be satire. If he says it is, then that's what it is, but it's poorly done satire. The fact is, we're joking about something that happens and we really don't have a great way of dealing with it since these communities are usually pretty isolated from society.
To contrast that to making fun of a group like NAMBLA, that used to advocate for lowering the age of consent quite a lot (they are no longer active, at least not publicly), we kind of know how we can deal with that as a problem. It's, if nothing else, easier to identify and deal with. But when women raised in a strict religious community that very much teaches that men are superior to women, if they do not report it, which they often won't since, in their mind, they have to be ok with it even if they aren't, we can't actually do anything about it. At least with a case of child sexual abuse, if it's reported, we can at least try.
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My myths? You believe in the myth of "Separation of Church and State," a myth that was created out of whole cloth, the phrase being found nowhere in any of our founding documents. In fact, such a phrase was never even on the lips of any of our founders and framers of our Constitution. Such would be anathema to them.
The United States of America has been for most of our history the most prosperous and most advanced nation of the world, and the envy of all. It was Alexis de Toqueville who coined the term, "American exceptionalism," when writing about democracy in America.
It has only been since we have begun to dismantle our Constituiton and abandon our faith and reliance on God (thanks to "progressivism"), and even our founding principles, that we have begun to slip back to the level of the rest of the "developed" world, which never came close to where we once were, and they themselves are also now sliding back to a less advanced state in terms of societal development. The whole world is becoming more depraved.
The founders believed that Christianity was part of the "Common Law," and there is no scarcity of evidence in any of their writings that this is what they believed.
You seem to suggest that socialism is "advancement," but our founders believed that man's natural rights came from God. In fact, the idea of "natural rights" came from John Calvin, who identified "the law of nature" with "the Law of God." Man's natural yearning is for freedom, and liberty. Governments of the past have been oppressive. This is where we are now headed.
Separation of church and state was a common place idea at the time. It's quite likely that they didn't feel it needed to be specifically state. Sort of like 'innocent until proven guilty.' No where in the bill of rights is that state. But that's because in English common law, that was already the standard. There was no need to specify it because it was already assumed.
Speaking of which, where in the constitution does it say America is a Christian country? No where. I already know the answer. But I am curious as to what you'll say to get out of that reality.
Also, more evidence that you are full of ****:
“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
~Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802
And despite you saying that there is so much evidence to suggest that America is a Christian nation, you present none. But I'm also guessing you have a pretty literal view of Christianity, so the idea of evidence is probably pretty shady for you. So allow me to be perfectly clear: if I can find evidence, as in direct quotes, that contradict what you say, you are wrong. This is not an issue of politics or opinion; it's reality. When I present a quote that very clearly states that the American government is in no way bound to Christianity, you must concede defeat. Because you have been objectively proven wrong.
Now, I know you won't admit defeat. Most likely, you'll ignore this post entirely. But on the off chance you do respond, you'll just be grasping for straws and pulling ridiculous opinions out of thin air. I'm certain you've been proven wrong before; I'd be shocked if no one ever presented you with a quote similar to my own. But on the off chance that this is the first time this has happened, you now have an opportunity to prove your humility. Do you still believe you are correct even in the face of contradicting evidence?
I'm surpried at the number of normally sane posters siding with the nutty man-hating feminists in this thread. There are no "pro-rape" meetings being held.
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What is even funnier is the "code"...“Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” and they respond “Yes, it’s right here.”...they are refer to themselves as animals. Way to think it through. 
