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Old 02-24-2016, 11:38 AM
 
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There is no other way to spin this, the Obama DOJ went to court, and refused to defend it's own federal agency, in a law suit brought by the NAACP, and League of Women Voters. The judge who presided over the case was shocked that the DOJ refused to offer any defense at all.

Noncitizen-Voting Case--DOJ Rebuked

This morning, as I predicted would happen in an article on Sunday, the U.S. Justice Department took a dive and filed a pleading in which it not only failed to defend the actions of the EAC, but agreed with the plaintiffs and consented to both a TRO and a PI. Judge Leon called the pleading “unprecedented” and “extraordinary.” He said he had never seen such a document in his entire experience as a lawyer or a judge. He was obviously astonished that the Justice Department was not defending the agency, and it was soon clear he was not going to allow DOJ to just roll over.

Here's the short of it. Three states asked the EAC to amend the federal voter registration form to include positive proof od US citizenship, the EAC complied. After all, the US Constitution says only US citizens can vote in national elections.

Well, the Obama admin wants non US citizens and illegal aliens to vote, sothey got with leftist groups, said "hey, you guys sue the federal government to stop this citizen requiremtn on the EAC form, and we, the DOJ, will not oppose you at all."

The judge in this case tore the DOJ lawyers a new one, and allowed the states to defend their case, since the DOJ was refusing to defend the EAC. In fact, the DOJ told the EAC, they will not defend this case, and denied the EAC from appointing its own lawyers to defend itself.

Under federal law, the EAC is responsible for designing the federal voter-registration form required by the National Voter Registration Act, or Motor Voter, as it is commonly called. While states must register voters who use the federal form, states can ask the EAC to include instructions with the federal form about additional state registration requirements. Some states are now requiring satisfactory proof of citizenship to ensure that only citizens register to vote.Read more at: Obama Administration Enabling Noncitizen Voting; DOJ Conflict of Interest
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Old 02-24-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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The Obama admin does this all the time, they don't like a law or regulation, so they ask special interest group to file a bugus lawsuit, and then Obama instructs his admin agencies not to defend the law, and sides with the plantiff, so it becomes the new law of the land.

They did this with DOMA. Obama did not like DOMA, liberal group sues, and Obama refuses to defend the law, judge rules in favor of the plantiff.

The regularly do this over at the EPA. If Obama wishes Congress would pass a law demanding the EPA enforce some draconian regulation, but Congress refuses to do so. Obama has some environmental group to file some flimsy lawsuit to sue the EPA and force it to comply with Obama's wishes, the EPA refuses to defend their regulation, and the liberal judge rules in favor of the lunatic desires of the plantiff, and it's now included in the federal regulation.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Proof of US citizenship would be a passport, or passport card. With a penetration rate of under 50% that's automatically excluding a large portion of your voting base.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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A copy of your birth certificate or naturalization form is also proof. You need to provide proof of citizenship to work in the federal government too.

How else can we make sure non citizens don't vote?
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No proof of citizenship to register to vote.
No proof of ID to vote.

Obviously there can never be voter fraud because we're going to let anyone register and vote and never ask for proof.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A copy of your birth certificate or naturalization form is also proof. You need to provide proof of citizenship to work in the federal government too.

How else can we make sure non citizens don't vote?
We'll take their word for it that they won't register

The USG is good about trusting people.

They trusted people to only sign up for 1 lifeline cellphone until they ran out of money.
The audit uncovered 60% had more than 1 lifeline cellphone account.
So much for "trusting" people.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Proof of US citizenship would be a passport, or passport card. With a penetration rate of under 50% that's automatically excluding a large portion of your voting base.
To get a US passport you have to provide proof of citizenship such as a birth certificate.

Birth certificates are proof of citizenship.
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Old 02-24-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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To get a US passport you have to provide proof of citizenship such as a birth certificate.

Birth certificates are proof of citizenship.
But they won't comply with all those good voter ID laws, since there's no picture.
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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But they won't comply with all those good voter ID laws, since there's no picture.
Oh a picture ID is required. The USG has a laundry list.
Only to vote does no one care who you are or where you came from.


https://travel.state.gov/content/pas...ime.html#step3
Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (You must submit one of the following. Photocopies and notarized copies are not acceptable):
Previously issued, undamaged, and fully valid U.S. Passport (5 year for minors or 10 years for adults)
Certified U.S. birth certificate (must meet all of the following requirements):
Issued by the City, County, or State of birth
Lists bearer's full name, date of birth, and place of birth
Lists parent(s) full names
Has date filed with registrar's office (must be within one year of birth)
Has registrar's signature
Has embossed, impressed, or multicolored seal of registrar
Photocopies and notarized copies are unacceptable
Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
Naturalization Certificate
Certificate of Citizenship
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Old 02-24-2016, 02:21 PM
 
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To get a US passport you have to provide proof of citizenship such as a birth certificate.

Birth certificates are proof of citizenship.
A friend of mine works for CBP on the southern border. Every time they catch a guy lying about his US citizenship when they wave a US birth certificate around, they are asked where they got it.

Invariably the answer is I found it on the street. So if you need your birth certificate, go to Mexico, the streets are paved with them.
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