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Old 03-19-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It seems like most of the Republican candidates have spoken about Obama's unconstitutional executive orders, and how they would revoke them on day one of their presidency. Is there someone who can explain to me how these executive orders work in the first place, and more importantly, what makes them unconstitutional? (I am a lawyer admitted to practice in two states, so it's not like I'm dumb, but more like I'm ignorant ). Please educate me on the evil ways as to how this executive works. Thanks.
Executive Orders are never explicitly granted to the President of the United States in the Constitution. The basis for using them is based on the declared function of the Executive Branch in the Constitution: To faithful execute and enforce the laws of the land. It was and is presumed that the President must issue Executive Orders pursuant to upholding and enforcing the laws of the land.

Insofar as Executive Orders uphold the laws put in place by Congress, then they are considered perfectly constitutional. Creating completely new laws or changing established policies via Executive Order -- now that's unconstitutional. For example, when Barack Obama attempts to rewrite immigration laws and policies already established by Congress, then that's unconstitutional and should be struck down by the SCOTUS.

That's how it's supposed to work. Creating laws is supposed to be the exclusive purview of the Legislative Branch. Presently, all three branches regularly write new legislation, change policy and create laws.
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Old 03-19-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Executive Orders are never explicitly granted to the President of the United States in the Constitution. The basis for using them is based on the declared function of the Executive Branch in the Constitution: To faithful execute and enforce the laws of the land. It was and is presumed that the President must issue Executive Orders pursuant to upholding and enforcing the laws of the land.

Insofar as Executive Orders uphold the laws put in place by Congress, then they are considered perfectly constitutional. Creating completely new laws or changing established policies via Executive Order -- now that's unconstitutional. For example, when Barack Obama attempts to rewrite immigration laws and policies already established by Congress, then that's unconstitutional and should be struck down by the SCOTUS.

That's how it's supposed to work. Creating laws is supposed to be the exclusive purview of the Legislative Branch. Presently, all three branches regularly write new legislation, change policy and create laws.
Very well said.
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Old 03-19-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Executive Orders are never explicitly granted to the President of the United States in the Constitution. The basis for using them is based on the declared function of the Executive Branch in the Constitution: To faithful execute and enforce the laws of the land. It was and is presumed that the President must issue Executive Orders pursuant to upholding and enforcing the laws of the land.

Insofar as Executive Orders uphold the laws put in place by Congress, then they are considered perfectly constitutional. Creating completely new laws or changing established policies via Executive Order -- now that's unconstitutional. For example, when Barack Obama attempts to rewrite immigration laws and policies already established by Congress, then that's unconstitutional and should be struck down by the SCOTUS.

That's how it's supposed to work. Creating laws is supposed to be the exclusive purview of the Legislative Branch. Presently, all three branches regularly write new legislation, change policy and create laws.
Since Congress can override, through countering legislation, a presidential order at any time, or appeal it to the Supreme Court who can then overturn it, it seems to me that Congress has all the power it needs to retain control.
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Old 03-20-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...changing established policies via Executive Order -- now that's unconstitutional...


According to.... you? I don't believe the SCOTUS agrees with your position. At least they haven't, yet.
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