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Old 03-30-2016, 10:18 PM
 
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Old 03-30-2016, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What makes a place of employment a "union shop"?


If the owners of a place that has employees make the CHOICE to only hire union workers, I have no problem with that, but what about the places where the owners want to have the choice to hire a person who doesn't want to be in the union. Do you want to outlaw such a CHOICE?
Unless desiring to freeload, why wouldn't anyone want to become a union member as long as in return one gets higher pay and better benefits than at a non-unionized workplace?

Once again, it's against federal law to first require being a member of a union as a condition for employment. So you should have a problem with that when it isn't being obeyed.
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Old 03-30-2016, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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The workers have the freedom of choice to apply for a job at 7-11 or at the local auto repair shop or any place else they want to work. Why do they apply for work at a union shop? This isn`t a hard question.
The best damn reason to apply at a union shop is because the pay is higher and benefits better. If not, one might as well pass it up.
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:47 AM
 
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Exaggeration? NO!

They're blocking him from filling a court vacancy. Nominating someone is only part of the process but don't let facts prevent a good anti-Obama rant...
"but don't let facts prevent a good anti-Obama rant.."

Rants are all I see from lefties.

Please show us WHERE in the constitution that it states a President HAS to fill ANY vacancy.

If you believe so much that it his "job" to fill a vacancy, why didn't he do it the day AFTER, Scalia died.

Why did he wait so long to "do his job"?

"They're blocking him from filling a court vacancy."

Again, show us with your great knowledge WHERE in the constitution where it states the Senate HAS TO do ANYTHING BUT GIVE ADVICE.

While you are at it, how us where in the Constitution it states HOW MANY judges there has to be.

You made claims, NOW BACK THEM UP.
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Old 03-31-2016, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I don't understand why unions need to be a giant machine that takes the worker's money. Can't workers just get together on their own from time to time and address important issues with the employer? I was part of a union once (not by choice). It just took my money each paycheck and had a layer of "officers" who never responded to you and never did anything but make concessions to the employer and then tell us we needed to make them or the employer would go broke.
The answer is no. Having been a Teamster in the 1980's and then de-certing in 1989 the only way to get management to talk as a group was to spread the idea that bringing back the local was a possibility.

The only time they would talk was with the individual on a regular basis. Depending on the employer the individual has little or no bargaining power.


All jobs do not require unions however when you need a union all members should be paying dues for the benefits, services and protections the union can provide.

Anyone who says that unionism is bad for employees does not know the history of this country. It is shortsighted when one complains about paying dues.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:05 AM
 
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Stop it. Republicans have done absolutely NOTHING historically about open borders except talk the issue to death. No surprise...right wingers are long on mouth and short on results when it comes to everything.

Gimme a darn break.
"Republicans have done absolutely NOTHING historically about open borders except talk the issue to death"

You really ARE clueles on some subjects that you make big claims on.

And then we have the usual juvenile insults thrown in as if THAT make you feel like a big shot.

"On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform."[1]
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'"right wingers are long on mouth and short on results when it comes to everything."

"On January 23, 2008 the 110th Congress introduced Reinstatement of the Secure Fence Act of 2008 (H.R. 5124)"

Yep, they don't do ANYTHING!
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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The answer is no. Having been a Teamster in the 1980's and then de-certing in 1989 the only way to get management to talk as a group was to spread the idea that bringing back the local was a possibility.

The only time they would talk was with the individual on a regular basis. Depending on the employer the individual has little or no bargaining power.


All jobs do not require unions however when you need a union all members should be paying dues for the benefits, services and protections the union can provide.

Anyone who says that unionism is bad for employees does not know the history of this country. It is shortsighted when one complains about paying dues.
"does not know the history of this country"

I think most DO know the history but, this is NOT 1940 anymore.

The unions did GREAT work, "back in the day".

NON public unions have declined DRASTICALLY of the pat 40 years because the WORKER found out how corrupt the unions are.

The problem is they have becomes as corrupt as the politician they pay off.

The Teamsters, I should have known.

I was in a union and the great brotherhood of teamsters BROKE OUR PICKET LINES.

We even picketed the teamsters national headquarters after that.

They weren't to happy to have press report how the were NOT such great "brothers" of other unions as they claimed.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:20 AM
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Perhaps if we called unions "Chambers of Labor" nobody would be against them. Chambers of Commerce are essentially unions for business owners. They collect and spend money the same way unions do.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"but don't let facts prevent a good anti-Obama rant.."

Rants are all I see from lefties.

Please show us WHERE in the constitution that it states a President HAS to fill ANY vacancy.

If you believe so much that it his "job" to fill a vacancy, why didn't he do it the day AFTER, Scalia died.

Why did he wait so long to "do his job"?

"They're blocking him from filling a court vacancy."

Again, show us with your great knowledge WHERE in the constitution where it states the Senate HAS TO do ANYTHING BUT GIVE ADVICE.

While you are at it, how us where in the Constitution it states HOW MANY judges there has to be.

You made claims, NOW BACK THEM UP.
Show me where the constitution states that a congressman has to show up for work.


We are discussing common sense and a functioning government, maybe we should just do a way with congress, who needs them.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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Yeah, but not only the Clintons. It ain't like the OTHER guys are pro-union either.
Yeah, but you didn't vote for the other guys.

Pretty telling how they still protect the public unions but not the private ones. The common denominator is whom is giving them enough votes and cash and the corporations trumped the private unions.

P.S. Did you know Biden and Gore supported or outright signed NAFTA too?
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