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This country is currently so politically divided that it is essentially a variety of vastly different nations fighting over which nation will have control of the rest of them for 4-8 years.
The metaphor of two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner has manifested itself in reality in the extreme.
The Left (now far left) is and should be frightened at the notion of Donald Trump determining their future for 4-8 years. Similarly, the Right (now far right) is and should be frightened of the possibility of Hillary Clinton determining their future for 4-8 years.
Democracy was first implemented in modern Europe, and then in what became the USA, to give people the possibility of true self determination. It worked so as long as the various interests in these countries were not too politically divided, as one could still state that the interests of all were still being served to a point.
This is no longer the case, as serving the interests of any of the various large groups precisely counteracts the interests of the other various large groups.
Thus, Democracy in this political environment has become a competition wherein it is decided which group will be the metaphorical sheep-dinner for 4-8 years; it has become a tool to control "the people" rather than to allow them to be self determinate.
How long can this go on? How long should it go on until we collectively realize that it is amoral?
Should the Left be continuously subject to rule that it finds to be hostile? Should the Right be continuously subject to rule that it finds to be hostile? I submit that this cycle is ridiculous and it can not nor should not last.
Ending democracy is one theoretical solution, but I don't believe that could be done amicably within the current sociopolitical milieu. Thus, I see a large scale, peaceful, and mutual secession as the best possible solution. The details are step two, or even step five, but first I believe that we need a national discussion that acknowledges how utterly broken and dysfunctional this system is without laying blame. All parties need to give up the notion of controlling large groups of people who hold their views to be repugnant, as this is the moral position. All parties need to envision how their lives would be better once they inhabited a Nation that was less divided.
The right would gladly secede from the rest of this country if it could; but the leftist elites in Washington will never let it happen.
The new "Right" nation would be wildly wealthy and successful within a couple years, while the "Left" nation would be in good company with Greece, begging the wealthier, more industrious, nations for money. Because that's all they know how to do.
As the spectrum that represents the population's politics is broad and varied, and many people on opposite (or near opposite) ends of said spectrum live relatively close to each other, i.e. not segregated neatly by state or political boundaries, I doubt secession could ever happen.
The right would gladly secede from the rest of this country if it could; but the leftist elites in Washington will never let it happen.
Correct. The right throws temper tantrums every time they are forced to progress.
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Originally Posted by PuddingPops
The new "Right" nation would be wildly wealthy and successful within a couple years, while the "Left" nation would be in good company with Greece, begging the wealthier, more industrious, nations for money. Because that's all they know how to do.
Kind of like how prosperous all the right-wing states are?
Kind of like how prosperous all the right-wing states are?
Look toward the midwest for a small glimpse at the tremendous economic growth that would represent a nation with a strong, fiscally conservative political agenda. Even many of the southern states, which I assume you're referring to, are quite wealthy, if you exclude the overwhelmingly liberal, urban areas that drag them down economically.
The right would gladly secede from the rest of this country if it could; but the leftist elites in Washington will never let it happen.
The new "Right" nation would be wildly wealthy and successful within a couple years, while the "Left" nation would be in good company with Greece, begging the wealthier, more industrious, nations for money. Because that's all they know how to do.
The Left Nation would not have to go begging. The Right Nation would just invade the Left Nation, overthrow the government, and nation-build it like we're doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's the only way to invest in our own country. It would probably work, too, since we're ready for democracy.
Look toward the midwest for a small glimpse at the tremendous economic growth that would represent a nation with a strong, fiscally conservative political agenda. Even many of the southern states, which I assume you're referring to, are quite wealthy, if you exclude the overwhelmingly liberal, urban areas that drag them down economically.
I'm ok with this so I guess I'll have dual citizenship.
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