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Old 04-10-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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I feel I have a right to comment on this since my Dad was a Marine in WWII and was on a troop ship bound for the main Japanese islands when the bombs were dropped. He was to be in one of the first waves of the invasion so his chance of surviving were pretty slim. He survived the battles of Bouganville, Guam and Iwo Jima. After the bombs he was one of the very first troops to set foot on Japanese soil after they surrendered. He saw the defense network with his own eyes. He said they had narrow gauge railways in tunnels to shuttle food and ammo to troops in buried positions. He said it would have been a terrible cost to get them out of those holes to Japanese and American lives.

Now this guy who barely considers himself to be an America, who is a protege of Saul Alinsky is going to go over there and not only embarrass the United States of America for the umpteenth time during his tenure, he's going to essentially **** on the graves of much better men than he will ever be who died for this country. He is going to apologize for the bombings, whether he actually says it his presence there is not only inappropriate, it suggests an apology.

There is no end to the ego of this ***^^()() I just can't describe the disgust I have for our President.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...8bb_story.html

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Old 04-10-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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Is this the final leg of Obama's Apology Tour?
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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It's the final leg of the GOP whine tour.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:24 AM
 
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It's the final leg of the GOP whine tour.
I don't know but, I DO know we still have the dems W. Bush whine tour on this forum.

When will ever have his "final leg"?
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Sorry to break it to you, OP, but President Obama is every bit as much of an American as you and your father. War and its repercussions are long-lasting and cruel. There is NOTHING wrong with reminding the world what happens when we don't do everything possible to avoid escalating hate in the world, when we don't use diplomacy as our first line of defense, when we don't stump on people like Trump when they crazy-talk about wiping out decades worth of efforts to reduce nuclear weapons world wide.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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It's the final leg of the GOP whine tour.
Do you ever give an honest reply to any issue ever? Do you not care for the sacrifices made by these young boys...18, 19 years old like my Dad was who lived through hell for this country? Or just some stupid little one line quip..that's all you care about this issue.

This isn't politics, this is respect for a generation that gave so much for us. We would not have the life we have if not for the WWII generation. And Obama is not fit to represent THEM.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:37 AM
 
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I watched a video of Obama from 1995 last night. I came to the conclusion that Obama is driven by a desire to academically understand cultural and national differences. That's fine for a professor, but he has shown no desire to better the interests of the country. The last 8 years have merely been field research for his dissertation which he will give in the form of speeches.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you ever give an honest reply to any issue ever? Do you not care for the sacrifices made by these young boys...18, 19 years old like my Dad was who lived through hell for this country? Or just some stupid little one line quip..that's all you care about this issue.

This isn't politics, this is respect for a generation that gave so much for us. We would not have the life we have if not for the WWII generation. And Obama is not fit to represent THEM.
His focus has been on non-proliferation, he just came from an international meeting, highlighting the destruction of Hiroshima plays into that. Some GOP politicians have been tossing around ridiculous rhetoric regarding nuclear retaliation, they need to take a step back. Remembrance of the innocent people killed and the entire destruction of 2 cities by a president, long overdue.


It's a visit to highlight the impact but some people are going to read this as an insult to soldiers who died in WW2, one has nothing to do with the other.


Remembrance of the deaths of innocent people and the total destruction of two cities by an American president, long overdue.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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we are global now and we should know everything about everything in the world- many EX presidents get involved in world stuff- speak every where etc. so- enjoy your visit Mr pres-
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Old 04-10-2016, 08:02 AM
 
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His focus has been on non-proliferation, he just came from an international meeting, highlighting the destruction of Hiroshima plays into that. Some GOP politicians have been tossing around ridiculous rhetoric regarding nuclear retaliation, they need to take a step back. Remembrance of the innocent people killed and the entire destruction of 2 cities by a president, long overdue.


It's a visit to highlight the impact but some people are going to read this as an insult to soldiers who died in WW2, one has nothing to do with the other.


Remembrance of the deaths of innocent people and the total destruction of two cities by an American president, long overdue.



Yeah, actually the 2 are connected.


As far as "innocent people" goes, both cities were centers of military production as well as military bases. Those would have housed soldiers, and civilians, who would have actively opposed the invasion of the Japanese Home Islands scheduled for early 1946, an operation guaranteed to result in millions of casualties on both sides.


The death toll in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki is now, with the hindsight of history and research, acknowledged to have been much less than that of the Tokyo firebombings of a few months earlier using more or less conventional weapons.


At base what the President says is what will be important. If he uses it as an occasion, as many Presidents since WW II have done in other venues, to state that nuclear weapons must never again be used is one thing. If he instead states that the use of those weapons to end WW II was wrong morally, he's on much shakier ground and will rightly be criticized.
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