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Old 05-01-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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FACT: only 3% of all alimony awards go to men, despite men being eligible for a much higher percentage.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/emmajohn.../#549afc9723c2

FACT: men are 97% of all combat fatalities.
FACT: 80% of all suicides are men
FACT: men lose custody in 84% of all divorces.
FACT: 1/3 of all fathers have lost custody of their children in the usa.

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FACT: Men are arrested 4x as often for domestic violence yet are no more violent then women.


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FACT: women that receive child support are not required to use the money to support their children.
FACT: women that receive child support are not required to pay any of their own money to support their children.

FACT: Public policy is that women are allowed to physically assault men if they feel (or claim to feel) that the male as the aggressor (not necessarily the physical aggressor), but men are not allowed to touch women at all even if they have been beaten.

FACT: Unwed mothers have automatic full custody of children. The man named on the birth certificate is forced to financially support the child, but has no custody rights of the child, including visitation rights.



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Old 05-01-2016, 06:11 PM
 
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..i think Tammy Wynette might disagree........................lol!
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Fact: Social Security benefits are payable to both men and women beginning at age 62, even though women's life expectancy exceeds men by 4.8 years (81.1 for women vs 76.3 for men).

QuickStats: Life Expectancy at Birth, by Sex and Race/Ethnicity — United States, 2011
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:34 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Don't get married, don't marry white women especially.

A guy I know who's been divorced 3x finally threw the towel. He's had enough of paying alimony while the women made a living doing the same thing to other men.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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Don't get married, don't marry white women especially.
Well, soon we'll have one as President.

That oughta be fun.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:08 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Well, soon we'll have one as President.

That oughta be fun.
A female president would not change anything, Congress has to approve the President's orders. If Hillary does win, she has to prove to men that she's not a feminist president that only cares about female benefits.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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FACT: only 3% of all alimony awards go to men, despite men being eligible for a much higher percentage.
Indeed, and as an egalitarian, which makes me a feminist on most issues, this is problematic.

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FACT: men are 97% of all combat fatalities.
FACT: 80% of all suicides are men
FACT: men lose custody in 84% of all divorces.
FACT: 1/3 of all fathers have lost custody of their children in the usa.
To my knowledge, it's extremely rare for women to actually see any military combat. So this statistic is not really an issue of sexism, but more just what you should reasonably expect given who's actually involved.

Suicide is a complicated issue. Attributing to sexism is going to need more than just a statistic though.

Indeed, men do often lose custody. This is probably actually the result of traditional gender roles. Women are considered better for raising children, so much so that traditionalists don't even think they should have careers. It would be wise to make an effort to change this so fathers who don't deserve the right to see their kids taken won't.

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FACT: Men are arrested 4x as often for domestic violence yet are no more violent then women.
Yeah, that's not true. Men are statistically more violent. I'll give you that men who claim to be the victim in domestic abuse cases are not always taken as seriously as they should, which is the result of a combination of the gender roles issue I already brought up and the fact that statistically men are more likely to be physically abusive than women.

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FACT: women that receive child support are not required to use the money to support their children.
FACT: women that receive child support are not required to pay any of their own money to support their children.
The combination of these two would suggest that money is still somehow going to the child. If it's not their own, it's the fathers. Somehow the child is being paid.

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FACT: Public policy is that women are allowed to physically assault men if they feel (or claim to feel) that the male as the aggressor (not necessarily the physical aggressor), but men are not allowed to touch women at all even if they have been beaten.
Legally, this is not the case. Indeed, there is some truth to what you're saying and it is problematic.

[quote=dysgenic;43901350]FACT: Unwed mothers have automatic full custody of children. The man named on the birth certificate is forced to financially support the child, but has no custody rights of the child, including visitation rights./quote]

Yes. Unwed mothers gave birth to the child so I can understand automatic custody rights. Unless there is a reason the mother has determined not to, how common is it for the father to never actually meet their child except by choice?

I think you're labeling of male oppression is a little off base.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:42 PM
 
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when men can give birth, maybe they'll get child support
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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A female president would not change anything, Congress has to approve the President's orders. If Hillary does win, she has to prove to men that she's not a feminist president that only cares about female benefits.
Thus far, she has proven precisely the opposite. There is no reason why, having seized executive power, she should change her spots.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:59 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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When you stand back and look at the big picture, men have ran the show and have had much much much more privilege than women, even to this day men have much more privilege, heck just go look at any assbackward ignorant Islamic country and just look at the way women are treated, add Shari law on top of the garbage of Islam and you've got yourself a feminist nightmare.

Men have it much better overall, I'd take being a man over a woman any day of the week and by a long long long long shot.
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