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Old 05-20-2016, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Create a zoning classification for 2,500 sq ft lots and tiny houses will arise because some people want them and McMansions will not be possible.
Lol, since when is a 2,500 square foor house "tiny"?
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Old 05-20-2016, 06:30 PM
 
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While us "rich white people" are at work, working to pay for those "rich white homes", the Section 8 people will be able to rob us blind. Maybe Obama will pass an executive order that prohibits us from locking our doors when we leave for work. Tisk, tisk, should a the underprivileged bust a fingernail trying to break in.
Hey I'm just going to demand that government help me pay for a place in the Hamptons right next to some rich liberal.
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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If HUD picks your zip code to make it more 'diversified', tax payer money will subsidize up to 70% of a house rental. This is in addition to the EBT card and Medicaid.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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My husband and I worked our way into the burbs. We're good neighbors. We're black. We do not want Section 8 losers destroying our community. Obama is anti-white people. He will destroy everything you've created. He's still got months to do it.
Yep. Obviously there is a certain amount of self loathing going on considering that he is half white. When he identified as black, rather than both black and white, on the 2010 U.S. census form he might as well have been throwing darts at a picture of his mother.
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Old 05-23-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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Keep trying...though I am proud of you for looking up "comprehend" in the dictionary and using it in a sentence. I know that was a stretch was for you.
6 days later and you finally figured it out, congrats. How's that snow white town of yours? You guys still celebrating your non-existent diversity?
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Lol, since when is a 2,500 square foor house "tiny"?



2,500 square foot LOT, not house. Realistically, you're not going to be able to site a house larger than maybe 900 square feet e.g. 30' x 30' - and probably smaller, given reasonable required setbacks. What I have in mind for 2,500 square foot lots are ~400 square foot houses.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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If HUD picks your zip code to make it more 'diversified', tax payer money will subsidize up to 70% of a house rental. This is in addition to the EBT card and Medicaid.



Section 8 traditionally subsidizes rents only up to the metro area median rent commensurate with household size. (e.g. !BR, 2BR, 3BR median rents are all different)

Congress should end HUD's notion of supervouchers to subsidize overpriced rentals.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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"Visionary" does not necessarily equal "smart" or even "successful". Unless for the latter he or someone finds a way to build upon that vision and it is embraced by many others. There's nothing wrong, and certainly nothing stupid, about opportunism to turn a buck.



I'm providing a service (shelter) in exchange for dollars, the rate at which is the greatest the market will bear. It's a fair exchange. If everyone owned a home, I would have many empty properties. If there were no rental properties available, there would be more people sleeping under an overpass. Rates are determined by supply and demand.


A property owner is subject to zoning laws, which exist because the government has obligations to the community as a whole and not to small groups of individuals who cannot keep up, making other arrangements possible such as shelters or food banks.


How do you imagine I'd be feeling about my neighborhood if I awoke one morning to see that my neighbor had a dozen tiny homes going up in his backyard? What do you think that would do to my property value? And how would that affect the tax base of the community?





So stupid people are all getting rich while smart people are not. Yeah... right.

??? renting is where you pay a premium to enjoy temp;orary, impaired use of property only until someone with more money wants to own or occupy it, at which point you're out on the street with nothing to show for your greater expenditure. how is that a fair exchange?

if the government has obligations to the community as a whole, why does zoning favor owners over renters, and why is zoning more popular among owners than among renters?

how do you imagine poor renters feel when they wake up one morning and a mcmansion is going up next door? why is your property value sacrosanct while the renter's necessarily skyrocketed rent (due to those mcmansions going up in the neighborhood) is trivial?
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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What's smart about it? Eight years ago NOBODY was investing here in local real estate. A downtown tower under construction stopped abruptly and sat idle for several years with no activity. Then media buzz got people interested and billions of investment dollars came in. The SMART investors would have been here eight years ago, where were they? The investors here today are opportunists jumping on the bandwagon, not the smart visionaries who should hjave been here eight years ago.

So you're building wealth off the backs of people who cannot buy homes and who therefore build no wealth of their own. Is that something to feel proud about? Why shouldn't a property owner be allowed to sell me a tiny piece of land for a tiny house so my housing dollars can build wealth for me and not for someone else?

Money allows any dummy to make more money without any need to be smart, while a smart poor person makes others wealthy.
A smart poor person would likely find a way to change their circumstances within 5 years.
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Old 05-24-2016, 01:28 PM
 
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A smart poor person would likely find a way to change their circumstances within 5 years.

Not so, many smart people are poor.
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