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Old 05-17-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Are you getting the Declaration of Independence, confused with the chains we the people placed upon the government in our own life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, called the US Constitution?
No, that is because I don't think any form of government or business or person should be allowed to inspect anyone's genitalia for them to use the restroom.

Not sure why you want anyone looking at your genitalia to make sure you are using the correct restroom.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Who owns the bathrooms?
In schools? NOT the federal government.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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We must recall that the 'pronouncement' does not have the force of law. The states and school districts are not under any legal obligation to follow the pronouncement.


However, the Obama administration has suggested that those states/school districts that do not follow the pronouncement is subject to losing Federal funds.
So... let a trans with penis and testicles change/shower with your minor daughters or the fed gov will starve poor kids (free school breakfast/lunch)?

Wow. Just... wow... /SMH
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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No, that is because I don't think any form of government or business or person should be allowed to inspect anyone's genitalia for them to use the restroom.

Not sure why you want anyone looking at your genitalia to make sure you are using the correct restroom.
No?
The Declaration of Independence was quoted, and tried to sell it to us as part of the US. Constitution.....
The ignorant may have bought it, until I pointed out the error.


Here is the problem... "I don't think". It is what one knows that determines what one thinks. The correct phrase would have been more rational to believe... "I don't know"
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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No?
The Declaration of Independence was quoted, and tried to sell it to us as part of the US. Constitution.....
The ignorant may have bought it, until I pointed out the error.


Here is the problem... "I don't think". It is what one knows that determines what one thinks. The correct phrase would have been more rational to believe... "I don't know"
How noble of you.

That's still doesn't give you the right to be a genitalia inspector at public restrooms.

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So... let a trans with penis and testicles change/shower with your minor daughters or the fed gov will starve poor kids (free school breakfast/lunch)?

Wow. Just... wow... /SMH
Why are you letting your little girl shower naked with adults alone? That would be your first mistake.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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Why are you letting your little girl shower naked with adults alone? That would be your first mistake.
Because they generally don't let parents attend school with their kids every day.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Because they generally don't let parents attend school with their kids every day.
Then how are these random adults showering with little children? And what messed up school let's adults get naked in front of children? I definitely wouldn't be sending my children there.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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On last Friday, Obama himself declared.... all bathrooms, showers and locker rooms in all public schools are now “transgender.”


On what authority? And then to order to punish states that do not consent....

James Madison - Federalist paper 39 & 45

“The idea of a national Government involves in it, not only an authority over the individual citizens; but an indefinite supremacy over all persons and things, so far as they are objects of lawful Government the proposed Government cannot be deemed a national one; since its jurisdiction extends to certain enumerated objects only, and leaves to the several States a residuary and inviolable sovereignty over all other objects”


“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negociation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will for the most part be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects, which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties and properties of the people; and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”




This seems to be totally recognized in the 10th Amendment, which reads as:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


States have every right in the 10th Amendment to disregard all federal actions that violate the Constitution, just by declaring them null and void. The States do not have to wait for the Supreme Court before nullifying usurpation's of the Constitution.


Thomas Jefferson - Kentucky Resolutions:

That if those who administer the general government be permitted to transgress the limits fixed by that compact, by a total disregard to the special delegations of power therein contained, annihilation of the state governments, and the erection upon their ruins, of a general consolidated government, will be the inevitable consequence: That the principle and construction contended for by sundry of the state legislatures, that the general government is the exclusive judge of the extent of the powers delegated to it, stop nothing short of despotism; since the discretion of those who administer the government, and not the constitution, would be the measure of their powers: That the several states who formed that instrument, being sovereign and independent, have the unquestionable right to judge of its infraction; and that a nullification, by those sovereignties, of all unauthorized acts done under colour of that instrument, is the rightful remedy:


So, the President abuses his power the same way the government get States to go along with unconstitutional laws and decrees. They pay the States off with federal funds, so they can encroach on them in violation of the 10th Amendment.


I loved it when I heard Texas say, "Mr. President, we do not need your 20 pieces of silver"
Yep. The federal government is out of control...especially under this regime
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:58 PM
 
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Then how are these random adults showering with little children?
I went to a grades 7-12 school. They exist. Students range in age from 12 to 19. A 12 year old is a minor. A 19 year old is an adult in regards to FELONY indecent exposure laws.
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:20 PM
 
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I believe it is covered under life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So you remember any bathrooms requiring to inspect your genitalia before you were allowed to enter?

So no, the 10th amendment is not violated.




Tell me where in the Constitution you find this.
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