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Its okay for Reagan to illegally sell arms to the Iranians, who would always remain our ally, and to allow over 200 marines to be killed in a bombing. But.... This Benghazi thing is a big deal....
Iran-Contra is the reason I won't be voting for a 10th term in office for Reagan this year.
I took the high road for several weeks, but no longer will I do so.
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An ass is a donkey. We'll agree to disagree that your post was "respectful".
You are not fooling anyone, the context you were using "ass" was name calling, not in reference to the animal. Nice try on the backpedaling
Yes we will disagree on the latter part of the quoted text, as it did not include any name calling-and direct addressed what you asked for.
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You would need to ask the classifying authority about that one, but it is safe to assume that if it is available on an unclassified website, it is, in fact, not classified, despite how it's marked.
Insufficient evidence, you have shown you know no more than I do with regard to such documents. We can not assume anything.
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So, in addition to not understanding how classified documents are/should be handled, you also don't know what "treason" means? Noted.
Clearly I do know what it means and we also agree to disagree that treason took place here, thats fine too.
Ill stay away from that whole thing about her & the state dept spoliation of evidence with sledgehammers, while using taxpayer money.
I took the high road for several weeks, but no longer will I do so.
You are not fooling anyone, the context you were using "ass" was name calling, not in reference to the animal. Nice try on the backpedaling
Yes we will disagree on the latter part of the quoted text, as it did not include any name calling-and direct addressed what you asked for.
Insufficient evidence, you have shown you know no more than I do with regard to such documents. We can not assume anything.
Clearly I do know what it means and we also agree to disagree that treason took place here, thats fine too.
Ill stay away from that whole thing about her & the state dept spoliation of evidence with sledgehammers, while using taxpayer money.
Reviving this after more than a month, eh?
I, in fact, was using "ass" in the sense that you were and continue to act like a donkey. Zero backpedaling happening here, muchacho.
Insufficient evidence of what? Your hypothetical classified doc scenario? Oooookay. If a "classified" doc shows up on an unclassified .gov source, it's a safe bet it has been declassified. That would be instituted by the original classifying authority. We *can* and should assume a document on an unclass .gov website (or other source) is, in fact, unclassified without evidence to the contrary. The fact that the document image is marked "classified" is not evidence.
Clearly your opinion that this scenario was treason is not based in evidence or logic, but it's yours to hold if you choose.
Destroying cell phones with hammers, while HIGHLY questionable and quite odd, IMO, is also not treasonous.
Interesting. Because my take on it is "It's shameful that it was turned into a dog, and pony show, but at least it played a role in demonstrating that Clinton has the smarts, stamina, and backbone - and then some - to be an effective president."
She ran guns to Syrian and Libyan rebels which got 4 Americans killed. Then she lied about it in the Senate hearings.
In December 2015, he told Condoleezza Rice, his successor at the State Department, that the Republican political attacks on Benghazi were “a stupid witch hunt”
I, in fact, was using "ass" in the sense that you were and continue to act like a donkey. Zero backpedaling happening here, muchacho.
Insufficient evidence of what? Your hypothetical classified doc scenario? Oooookay. If a "classified" doc shows up on an unclassified .gov source, it's a safe bet it has been declassified. That would be instituted by the original classifying authority. We *can* and should assume a document on an unclass .gov website (or other source) is, in fact, unclassified without evidence to the contrary. The fact that the document image is marked "classified" is not evidence.
Clearly your opinion that this scenario was treason is not based in evidence or logic, but it's yours to hold if you choose.
Destroying cell phones with hammers, while HIGHLY questionable and quite odd, IMO, is also not treasonous.
still namecalling? thats cute.
The only safe bet here is the white house shielded Hilary from doing time here, from the bought AG to Rice. Where is that video that Susan Rice was talking about anyhow? maybe shes the only one that ever seen it/was instructed to make the whole thing up?
Never claimed destroying cell phones was treasonous, but it is spoliation of evidence-do I have to explain what that is? What was on there that was so important that they didnt want anyone to be able to piece back together? Ohhh they found out about my home server! Better destroy as much evidence as possible!
The only safe bet here is the white house shielded Hilary from doing time here, from the bought AG to Rice. Where is that video that Susan Rice was talking about anyhow? maybe shes the only one that ever seen it/was instructed to make the whole thing up?
I don't know anything about any video and I couldn't care less - I'm no fan of Hillary and that started well before Benghazi.
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Never claimed destroying cell phones was treasonous, but it is spoliation of evidence-do I have to explain what that is? What was on there that was so important that they didnt want anyone to be able to piece back together? Ohhh they found out about my home server! Better destroy as much evidence as possible!
No, you didn't claim it was treasonous. But why bring up a much lesser infraction if you're alleging treason? Maybe the phones were evidence, maybe they weren't. We probably won't ever know for certain. If they didn't find enough evidence to bring charges on the server, I strongly doubt they would have on the phones.
No, you didn't claim it was treasonous. But why bring up a much lesser infraction if you're alleging treason? Maybe the phones were evidence, maybe they weren't. We probably won't ever know for certain. If they didn't find enough evidence to bring charges on the server, I strongly doubt they would have on the phones.[/QUOTE]
Lets be realistic.
They didnt find evidence on the server(that was not turned over as requested, it was taken) because the fbi was instructed not to mess up the democratic nominee's presidential bid. The AG was instructed to accept the FBIs recommendation even before they did their investigation. This was covered up from the start, well done by them and quite an executive overreach. where there is smoke-there is fire.
Whether you doubt there was info was on the phones and whether or not I believe there was info on the phones are both not important. she had the phones destroyed to spoliat the evidence to cover up her treason. The logic and deductive reasoning here is quite clear. Would I destroy my phone with a sledgehammer to hide evidence of yoga communication? lol?
The FBI coverup is beginning to be uncovered since they got served to turn over the full investigationto congress just the other day.
When Trump wins in November and Gowdy becomes our AG you will see a lot more garbage like this get uncovered.
We, the people, need to stop electing people with negative intelligence like "Guam is going to tip over" Hank Johnson from GA and Mr Cummings from MD.
That is all Republican know how to do -- lie. Well, lie, collect welfare, get free abortions, get free Obamacare, government-paid sex change operations, disability, food stamps, Bush phones and any "gimme" from the feds. I've seen Republicans at the grocery store on the 1st of the month with their Mercedes parked outside as they load up on ribeye steaks and sugar drinks. And it's been that way since Ronnie was in office. Truly, they act like welfare Queens.
Wow you are good!! How exactly do you know that someone standing in front of you in a grocery store is a Republican?
They didnt find evidence on the server(that was not turned over as requested, it was taken) because the fbi was instructed not to mess up the democratic nominee's presidential bid. The AG was instructed to accept the FBIs recommendation even before they did their investigation. The was covered up from the start, well done by them and quite an executive overreach. where there is smoke-there is fire.
Sure. All you have to do now is demonstrate that. Otherwise, you know what they say about opinions...
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Whether you doubt there was info was on the phones and whether or not I believe there was info on the phones are both not important. she had the phones destroyed to spoliat the evidence to cover up her treason. The logic and deductive reasoning here is quite clear. Would I destroy my phone with a sledgehammer to hide evidence of yoga communication? lol?
I dunno. Ask Tom Brady?
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The FBI coverup is beginning to be uncovered since they got served to turn over all evidence to congress just the other day.
I wait with bated breath. What else are they going to discover? They've already said that she "recklessly" and "carelessly" handled classified info. Do you think MORE classified emails are going to make a difference? If so, why?
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When Trump wins in November and Gowdy becomes our AG you will see a lot more garbage like this get uncovered.
Yes, just like the 9 (?) other GOP led investigations?
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We, the people, need to stop electing people with negative intelligence like "Guam is going to tip over" Hank Johnson from GA and Mr Cummings from MD.
Hank Johnson is an idiot, yes. I don't live in GA, so - not my problem to fix. I have no idea who Mr. Cummings is, but I don't live in Maryland either, so, see above.
Also, what the hell does this have to do with Hillary, her email server, or Benghazi?
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