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Old 02-23-2008, 05:58 AM
 
Location: The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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No, that is incorrect.
In that case, might this not be the problem? It is easy for a toddler to kill an adult when it discovers how to use and reload a small handgun.
Let alone armed teenagers under the influence of drugs. Under the influence their mental capacity might not be that much bigger than those of toddlers, but they have the body of adults which makes the handling much easier.

 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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In that case, might this not be the problem? It is easy for a toddler to kill an adult when it discovers how to use and reload a small handgun.
Let alone armed teenagers under the influence of drugs. Under the influence their mental capacity might not be that much bigger than those of toddlers, but they have the body of adults which makes the handling much easier.
No, that is not part of the problem.

I put a firearm in the hands of my sons when they were very young - when they were first introduced to hunting.

Sorry to disappoint you.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by GreatdayIn that case, might this not be the problem? It is easy for a toddler to kill an adult when it discovers how to use and reload a small handgun.
Let alone armed teenagers under the influence of drugs. Under the influence their mental capacity might not be that much bigger than those of toddlers, but they have the body of adults which makes the handling much easier.
I love the Europeans, they are always so cute with their ignorance of firearms.

Have you ever held a firearm? Have you ever fired a firearm? Do you know anyone who owns a gun or have previously owned a firearm? Can you tell me where the safety is on most pistols?

Not saying this to taunt you or anything, but you just scream that you have never ever been around firearms in your life. Maybe if you have, you wouldn't be so hostile towards it.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:18 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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I put a firearm in the hands of my sons when they were very young - when they were first introduced to hunting.
And they were under the influence of drugs?
BTW are your sons the example of how the average American youth are raised?
I bet that the most people who use guns and commit crimes have not that much in common with how you raised your children.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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And they were under the influence of drugs?
BTW are your sons the example of how the average American youth are raised?

I bet that the most people who use guns and commit crimes have not that much in common with how you raised your children.
No, they were not on drugs.

Inasmuch as you do not know too much about firearms, I might suggest that your perspective is very .... "narrow".
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni
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Have you ever held a firearm? Have you ever fired a firearm? Do you know anyone who owns a gun or have previously owned a firearm? Can you tell me where the safety is on most pistols?
Nope I only fired Uzis and a law and had thrown a grenade when I was drafted in the army.
I find using bows and arrows more complicated than shooting with a law or an Uzi.

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Old 02-23-2008, 06:35 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni Nope I only fired Uzis and a law and had thrown a grenade when I was drafted in the army.
I find shooting bows and arrows more complicated than using a law or an Uzi.
Anything a bit less military? Like a hunting rifle?

And in many American communities (and Canadian for that matter) it is not uncommon for children to go hunting with their parent (okay, usually father) and use firearms to do so.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:39 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni
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And in many American communities (and Canadian for that matter) it is not uncommon for children to go hunting with their parent (okay, usually father) and use firearms to do so.
Okay and how many kids from the big cities, especially the poor ones who are easily seduced to turn to crime, are educated by an adult how to use firearms?

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Anything a bit less military? Like a hunting rifle?
Only bow and arrows as a sport.
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Originally Posted by Frank_Carbonni Okay and how many kids from the big cities, especially the poor ones who are easily seduced to turn to crime, are educated by an adult how to use firearms?
Again, your point is??? What????
 
Old 02-23-2008, 06:46 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Greatday
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Again, your point is??? What????
Whaddaya mean again?
Anywayz, my point is that you make laws as a (possible) solution to existing problems.
You do not create laws for things that already work smoothly.
So I would find it prudent to need a license and be instructed in the use of firearms whenever you want to buy one.
I automatically assumed that one would need to be instructed in the use of firearms in order to get a liscense but I realise that this might not be the case.
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