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Old 06-21-2016, 09:28 AM
 
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We in many ways are saying similar if not like things in a variety of aspects.
We can look at countries with limited, poor or no industry. They are not doing very well, based on the concepts that dominate the world in which we live on this earth.
When industry came to China, not only did it change, it became far more than just Communist in its previous format, it incorporate many other governance aspects and ideological frames within how it functions. Hong Kong, is a prime example, as well as many or any of its Major Metro's, they function far different than the more remote and rural farm villiages and provinces with far less metro-industrial-commercial function.

American, it rose fast due to as you pointed out earlier, "labor factors", it used slave labor which produced wealth far and beyond what any or many countries could even remotely come close to, which fueled an industrial system in the north that led in production and exports. The standard of living changed, at base because of thse things, along with capital to invest in ideas and industrial processes.
When time moved forward and it was no long beneficial for slavery to exist, then we moved to another level of function, but still with segregation, it too was an economic challenges as well as social. American tried to push its image, only it had a black eye of segregation which it had necessity to address.

Society today, even with University, people forget the Ivy Leagues were and are for the wealthy to continue to pass along the means to keep wealth in the hands of the wealth, to innovate for the advance of the industrial function held by the wealthy. The people factor exist, but in many ways the general population is utilized as "money-changer" to move money about the system via consumption and indulgences. It is made to be complex, it has been and will be complex, but through the viewing of complexity one can grasp simplicity. "Economic processes" is what is the world today, the system understand that every 25 yrs a new generation will come.
We see the treatment of the elderly, the pacification and warehousing nature of how they are treated, as well as the prescribed process which becomes a economic driver for the whole of the medical system.

The alternative as you pointed out, is not viable, because left to the vices of the individual, we've not know the type and level of chaos and anarchy which can and would erupt. We need only look at the Middle East to get some understanding of what types of civil conflict, fueled not only by religion but any and many other factors.

We are in American, for all that makes up what it is, the good, the bad and the indifferent, it is for general practical funtion for the human being a good nation, considering the options and choice we'd be confronted with.

BUT.... maybe those options and choices may appear or even be different if not the stomp around the world, and the line drawing in the sand of World War I and World War II, which lead to many policies being engages and with difference of favor and disfavor depending on who, what, and when, which is to say, who was in power at the time, what of benefit be it natural resources, labor or strategic positioning, and when it would be feasible to push an agenda one way or the other, and when it would be beneficial to have and create a policy shift.

Sadly, many won't choose to look beyond the obvious to consider the elements that make up the whole. One can't afford to get lost in the drama of a flickering image, otherwise they will miss the perspective which is available to be viewed.

In the whole of matters, because even though money may well be the core driver, humanity finds its concerns, be it for peace so that commercialism may flourish or other motivation, it has to be a concern, for systems to function and flourish and continue its processions. It is of much within the realism's of what is Life and Living.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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Soon enough we will see all women with burkas and they will be modeling the newest style burka.


We really need to see all the bruises these burkas hide.......there are some horrifying stories on why women wear burkas. Has nothing to do with being godly.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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So I'm watching tv and a Macy's commercial comes on and I notice there are two females and a guy dancing or walking around in different clothes, swimsuits, or underwear.

And then I notice that the guy is asian, one of the girls is black, And the other one looks Hispanic? What's the deal?

Do these idiots know that America is still 65 or 70% white?
And has by far the most buying power.
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Old 06-21-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Does anyone posting on here work in the marketing department for Macy's, maybe this person can answer your question-- because I can't speak for Macy's. I don't know why they've made the decision to have a commercial that has no whites in it. If it bothers you that much and you believe that whites need to be in the commercial too, why don't you contact Macy's and tell them this?

If whites make up the majority, have the most power, and the most wealth--there's a high possibility that it's also whites that had something to do with the decision to create a commercial that does not have whites in it.

Personally I don't watch much tv, but when I do, I rarely if ever pay attention to the racial ratios in the commercials I watch. It isn't a concern of mine. This is obviously a concern for you since you posted this in the P&C forum, so my question to you is what exactly do you want??? For Macy's to make a commercial that doesn't exclude whites? Ok, contact them. Is your goal to talk about how unfair whites have it now? Now if a black person created a thread similar to this, the responses would be that the person is playing the race card, that blacks have xyz now-there's no need to complain, stereotypes, racist rants, etc--sooo my response to you is quit playing the race card, and consider what group is in power, has the most wealth, and is represented in the majority of commercials and television shows, but yes I suppose that even with all of this, the very fact that whites aren't in this commercial is an atrocity!
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Gee, They (Macy's) put on a really nice Parade in New York City every year. Plus, back in the 30s the even had the REAL Santa Claus working for them. A documentary was made about it.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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Gee, They (Macy's) put on a really nice Parade in New York City every year. Plus, back in the 30s the even had the REAL Santa Claus working for them. A documentary was made about it.
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Plus, back in the 30s the even had the REAL Santa Claus working for them


Geez' !!!! Where'd they find "the real one",,,
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:22 PM
 
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So I'm watching tv and a Macy's commercial comes on and I notice there are two females and a guy dancing or walking around in different clothes, swimsuits, or underwear.

And then I notice that the guy is asian, one of the girls is black, And the other one looks Hispanic? What's the deal?

Do these idiots know that America is still 65 or 70% white?
I cannot believe it matters.

Those models Macy's uses are very attractive.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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I think we all can agree that some fine day, we white males will finally be able to break through those glass ceilings, and enjoy the fruits of real opportunity. One day, white males will finally get some good starring roles in TV, commercials, and Hollywood movies and on that glorious day, we will command a decent wage for our labors. Until then, stay strong my brothers, and keep fighting the good fight.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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So I'm watching tv and a Macy's commercial comes on and I notice there are two females and a guy dancing or walking around in different clothes, swimsuits, or underwear.

And then I notice that the guy is asian, one of the girls is black, And the other one looks Hispanic? What's the deal?
I'm going with blacks, Asians and Hispanics like to dance around in their expensive underwear and bathing suits so they used them in this commercial. White people and Native Americans, on the other hand, prefer to dance around the house naked but Macy's doesn't sell naked so no Macy's commercials for them.

That's my guess and I'm sticking with it.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:33 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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So I'm watching tv and a Macy's commercial comes on and I notice there are two females and a guy dancing or walking around in different clothes, swimsuits, or underwear.

And then I notice that the guy is asian, one of the girls is black, And the other one looks Hispanic? What's the deal?

Do these idiots know that America is still 65 or 70% white?
But white people are too busy working and paying taxes to have time or money to shop. I noticed this one day when we went to the mall. There were black people, Hispanics and senior citizens shopping and not much else.

Now go click through the TV channels and see how that mixture is. Unless it is a reality show or sports my guess is you won't see many white people. They enjoy telling us we are in the minority now. I don't think we are but that is the victory cry. And I am definitely seeing they will not be as nice to us as minorities as we have been to them.
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