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Uh huh. Lol, man you people are a piece of work. Negotiating for vacation. Sure.
Somehow it's considered acceptable that Americans often have to beg for time off (paid or unpaid...good luck with that in this employer's market), while in the rest of the developed world, having paid time off is considered a default employee right.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons the divorce rate in the US is so high compared to most other countries. People have far less time to spend with their families.
If you have to work to eat and put a roof over your head you are a slave. Working the pool does not count.
Working to put food on the table and a roof over your head has been the way of survival since the beginning of time. Does that mean every person that has been born on this earth is a slave? Hardly.
You get paid weekends?
If it's not paid, it's not a vacation day. It's just unpaid time off.
(In theory, a salaried exempt worker is paid for weekends, but generally their rate of pay is based on 5 working days a week. I have no clue what percent of workers are salaried exempt.)
As you'll see from my post above, "paid" vacations are an illusion.
It's not much different than being self employed. When you are self employed, you can get paid $150k a year, but that doesn't mean you are making $150k a year. You must deduct out all the expenses to see how much you are actually making. Anybody who goes into business for themselves and doesn't understand expenses will quickly be hit with reality.
Most employers understand expenses, and their employees paid vacation is an expense which is calculated as part of their total compensation.
The fascist government has trained you quite well. Their control of public education is paying off. You are the poster child for Americans who ignore history. A gulag is waiting. They will throw people like me in first. You can relax.
Lol, yes, because the Swedes, Finns, Aussies, Canucks, etc...are all in gulags.
All of you complaining about how you aren't getting x, y, z at work, if you voted for Clinton, Bill that is, you have only yourself to blame. If you voted for that current clown in the WH, especially if you did it twice, you have only yourself to blame.
Jobs going to other countries, thanks Bill! That means supply is lower than demand. That means that right now, you are really going to have to stand out to get extras. It is an employers market right now, not employees. There was a time when there were more jobs than people...guess what happened? Employers were offering all kinds of perks, hand over fist, to get people to come work for them.
Let me spare you the spin: "B-b-but Bush!!11!!!eleventy!!" It went in to LAW because Clinton signed it. If Clinton didn't agree with it, he did not have to sign it. Spin doctors will not save you - Clinton signed it, and every single publication attributes it to Clinton because that is who it belongs to. Bush did come up with it, but Clinton insisted that it needed some side agreements. At the time, all those smart economists stated that the "impact" on job losses would be small. (This is why I don't give a rat's patooti what quotes people attribute to economists....Cripes how many times have they been wrong?) It was estimated to cost us $7B+ by 2003. To offset all of that came more taxes! Hurray! There were also program cuts...something the libs cry about. Hurray!
The jobs aren't here anymore. They've been shipped off to other countries. This is what Clinton signed. The current clown in the WH has doubled the deficit he inherited causing a recession...if not depression. There's now 50 million American receiving some sort of welfare (food stamps) with more than that receiving multiple sources of welfare.
I'm sure that negotiating isn't as easy as it used to be when employers rolled out the red carpet for everyone...sucks doesn't it? It's not fun, is it? The people that the libs despise the most, "big business" or how they see it "old greedy rich white man sitting on top of his pile of gold counting is money each night ala Scrooge McDuck" are the very people that the libs helped. Congratulations, libs! You helped big business by pushing them out of the country, you crushed more families in to becoming the poor that you claim you want to help, money is running out, and soon no one will be helped because libs simply do not comprehend "reality" and "consequences". You can't force your way on to other people...it will always backfire on you. Always.
Oh, baloney! I've been in the professional workforce since Nixon's first term in office. I don't know when this mythical time was that "employers rolled out the red carpet for everyone". Even back in the Nixon administration, when there was a "nursing shortage" and they'd ask you "can you start yesterday" when you showed them your license, the benefits weren't all that great. In fact, it was worse then than now. And why bother to change jobs? They were all the same WRT benfits, time off for a family emergency, etc.
People WANT more vacation time and time with their friends and family. Americans are not Martians. Americans value leisure time and family and loved ones as much as anyone in the world, and polls show that yes, indeed, Americans OVERWHELMINGLY want employers to be required to offer 2 weeks vacation time as a minimum.
There is nothing to back up the idea that Americans are more financially secure in retirement than seniors in other countries either. On the contrary, not only do Americans have very, very little vacation time, but retirement security is also very weak and disgracefully, older people in their 80s are sometimes forced to work awful jobs to survive.
I'm sure that people hundreds of years ago valued that also, but they had to feed their families. Do you think that people struggling to grow or raise food for their family demanded 2 weeks off?
For your information, valuing family is often translated as providing for them. Many people work long and hard in order to give their family the best life possible.
Somehow it's considered acceptable that Americans often have to beg for time off (paid or unpaid...good luck with that in this employer's market), while in the rest of the developed world, having paid time off is considered a default employee right.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is one of the reasons the divorce rate in the US is so high compared to most other countries. People have far less time to spend with their families.
Math and accounting work the exact same anywhere on the planet.
In these other countries, the employees are not actually getting paid for those paid days off.
If you want to argue that they receive greater total compensation than workers in the US, then we can debate that, but since the "paid vacation days" are really just marketing, it's kind of pointless to debate them.
Haha. Those aren't vacation days. They're days when most people run errands, clean their houses/cars, and other routine necessities.
And how can anyone travel abroad with only 2 days at a time??
Do you consider your sleeping hours as vacation time too?
My sleeping time is non-paid just like vacations and weekends.
How many Americans do you believe are traveling for their entire two weeks of vacation?
I used to work for a French company and knew plenty of French that lived in France. In August, they drive or take a bus to another country, which is equivalent to us in the US going to another state in terms of distance, but it would usually be for a week or two, unless, you were young and without kids, while the rest would be used around the house.
Additionally, most people in the US who can afford to take an actual traveling vacation for two weeks are the people receiving three, four or five weeks vacation.
Most people getting two weeks or less cant afford such vacations.
When I was with the company that changed the policy of selling back vacation days to use it or lose it, it wasn't upper or even middle management who were complaining, it was the people on the shop floor and the ones doing clerical work. They wanted the money.
Sure l, let's pass a law mandating five weeks vacation, but only if we include in that law that employers can adjust compensation at the same time. When most workers see their paychecks decline, you can tell them how they are better off now being able to travel for five weeks. I'm sure they'll appreciate that.
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