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Old 06-29-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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Hey, good on all you liberals for 2nd class citizening women's health care needs. Dance in the streets that women's health care doesn't have to meet the same standards of everyone else's health care.

Happy with yourselves about that?

Liberals = Misogynists
Except for the FACT that the standards are not the same. The law was enforcing more stringent standards on one provider of minor surgical procedures and not all of them.

Why do you not care about people having all of the other minor surgical procedures in doctors and dentist offices every day? Why are you not pushing for all doctor and dental office to have surgical center regulations and admitting privileges?

Abortion providers already had to meet the SAME standards as other minor surgical procedure providers.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Hey, good on all you liberals for 2nd class citizening women's health care needs. Dance in the streets that women's health care doesn't have to meet the same standards of everyone else's health care.

Happy with yourselves about that?

Liberals = Misogynists
Maybe you missed the part where there are plenty of outpatient procedures with higher risks that do NOT require admitting privileges, specifically the example of colonoscopies was noted above. Thus an abortion provider not having admitting privileges is exactly the same standard available to everyone else.

Your argument is bogus.

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Old 06-29-2016, 10:55 AM
 
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And yet women can deliver babies at home including having an episiotomy (cutting to get a baby out) without a licensed doctor even being there. You can have many minor surgical procedures done in doctors and dentis offices that are not required to operate at the level of a surgical center.
D&C is not a "minor procedure". But hey I only work in a hospital and worked previously in an office. This isn't some sebaceous cyst being cut into. And the levels of their requirement are laughably low as it sit.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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Not true, according to the Finland study:

Immediate complications after medical compared with surgical termination of pregnancy. - PubMed - NCBI

More accurate record keeping was in place in the Finland study because, you know... more strict regulations.
And what are the rates of complications from colonoscopies from the Finland study?
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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If they're not considered legitimate practitioners by their peers, why should they be allowed to invade women's bodies?
Interesting choice of words to describe a legitimate medical procedure. Very telling.

You've previously stated that you are pro-choice, but I don't believe that for one second.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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Maybe you missed the part where there are plenty of outpatient procedures with higher that do NOT require admitting privileges, specifically the example of colonoscopies was noted above.
I'm not seeing anywhere in TX law that ambulatory surgery centers are allowed to have lower standards.

Colonoscopy is a diagnostic procedure. Abortions are not.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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D&C is not a "minor procedure". But hey I only work in a hospital and worked previously in an office. This isn't some sebaceous cyst being cut into. And the levels of their requirement are laughably low as it sit.
And yet other doctors can do a D&C in office without surgical center regulations. They were not covered under the TX law.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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And what are the rates of complications from colonoscopies from the Finland study?
Colonoscopies are a diagnostic procedure. Abortions are not.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Interesting choice of words to describe a legitimate medical procedure. Very telling.

You've previously stated that you are pro-choice, but I don't believe that for one second.
Why can't you wrap your mind around the fact that I'm pro-choice AND equal standards?
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Old 06-29-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Why can't you wrap your mind around the fact that I'm pro-choice AND equal standards?
Because I believe that you are dishonest.
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