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Old 07-08-2016, 11:43 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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White people seem to want to pacify the government murdering citizens. You know, because you don't think it's "never going to happen to you", except when it does.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Japan
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The article is written by an apparent imbecile but he does quote one person who knows what they are talking about:


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Candace McCoy is a criminologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. McCoy said blacks might be more likely to have a violent encounter with police because they are convicted of felonies at a higher rate than whites. Felonies include everything from violent crimes like murder and rape, to property crimes like burglary and embezzlement, to drug trafficking and gun offenses.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference.
Given these facts, it is perfectly understandable that 30-40% of people killed by cops are black. It's just about the percentage you would expect if they are not targeting people by race.
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Old 07-09-2016, 03:46 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The article is written by an apparent imbecile but he does quote one person who knows what they are talking about:
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Candace McCoy is a criminologist at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York. McCoy said blacks might be more likely to have a violent encounter with police because they are convicted of felonies at a higher rate than whites. Felonies include everything from violent crimes like murder and rape, to property crimes like burglary and embezzlement, to drug trafficking and gun offenses.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference.
Given these facts, it is perfectly understandable that 30-40% of people killed by cops are black. It's just about the percentage you would expect if they are not targeting people by race.
Exactly. The rates match. There is no targeting by race. There is no racial discrimination.

Now if someone could educate Obama and BLM...
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Old 07-09-2016, 12:56 PM
 
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Another thing that's needed is a racial breakdown of police shootings that were found to be justified vs those that weren't.
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Old 07-09-2016, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I guess whites are OK with more whites being killed by police because there are far more whites to begin with.
If they are human garbage, and the police are taking out the trash, I don't mind. That's what they are paid to do.

Race means nothing to me. But it seems to mean everything for a small minority of Americans, when it's convenient of course.
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Old 07-09-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If they are human garbage, and the police are taking out the trash, I don't mind. That's what they are paid to do.

Race means nothing to me. But it seems to mean everything for a small minority of Americans, when it's convenient of course.
The only reason to take anothers life is in defense of a life or defense of property. Any other reason is barbaric.
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Old 07-09-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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The only reason to take anothers life is in defense of a life or defense of property. Any other reason is barbaric.
The death penalty is not barbaric. If you do not want to die at the hands of the law, don't become a criminal.

My relatives fought in wars where they were forced to kill. They are not barbarians. They were fighting for this country, but not necessarily in defense of it.

I have absolutely no sympathy for criminals, especially violent criminals, the real barbarians of modern society. For many, a death sentence really is the only answer.
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Old 07-09-2016, 04:20 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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Total numbers mean nothing when you are comparing groups that comprise 70% and 13% of the population. Those comparisons have to be made proportionately. Anyone who tries to use total numbers is either an idiot or a manipulator.
When you are comparing extremely rare incidents (and it is rare, 0.0009% of the population was killed by a police officer in those 10 years), overall proportion of the population is essentially meaningless. The comparisons should not be made proportionally, and making those comparisons proportionally is actually the intellectually dishonest path.
Move over, when you are trying to demonstrate a causal relationship between police killing and race, where the race of the victim and the racism of the officer is the direct and sole cause of the killing, then proportion in the population is irrelevant. If police are direct killing people because of their race and only killing people because of their race, then you would expect few if any white people to be killed by police officers regardless of their proportion in the population.
If that is not what is happening, then race and racism are not the sole and direct cause.

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