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Old 07-14-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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You have all the tools you need to fix yourselves. Whining and complaining never helps.........
Dude, I am of European origin, earn a good income, and yes, I am on the left.

I do not have all the solutions, but at least I acknowledge there is a problem and what has been done by both Democrats does not work. Right wingers are like you and offer ZERO solutions.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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American Blacks are a product of their American environment which was orchestrated by the slave owners. That is why blacks from Africa do better. They were not enslaved in this country.
Got statistics? Or, are you just supposing?
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:40 PM
 
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Back when I was selling cars, we had many wealthy, successful black customers. I knew most of them and can tell you they all made it on their own.
I wonder how they overcame adversity and oppression like some here claim prevents blacks from acheiving.
Anyway, this topic is becoming lame after about 100 threads just like this.
Yep, there are folks like Ben Carson out there. But, most blacks that make it do not have a direct link to slavery or come from the projects. Most folks in the inner city have given up hope and lack confidence and trust in the system.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Here
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Got statistics? Or, are you just supposing?
That one left me scratching my head as well. haha
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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American Blacks are a product of their American environment which was orchestrated by the slave owners. That is why blacks from Africa do better. They were not enslaved in this country.
You win the most absurd post of the day award. No one has been enslaved in the US for generations. African Americans are oppressed by each other, not by whites, not by the government. Blacks from Africa might do better because they don't whine, cry and make excuses for how poor they're doing.

“there is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.”
― Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings, 1645 AD
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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That Obama won the presidency did not help.

Blacks have little power and remain victims of their history in the US.

What can be done?

Electing black leaders does not do the job. What are the alternatives. More of the same?
Maybe the same as Jewish people have done...get up and rollet up your sleeves and start working, studying, etc. and stop whining and blaming everyone for things in the past.

Unfortunately slavery is part of history but Jewish people were also slaves and you hardly hear them talking about it.

Many Jewish Holocaust survivors like some of my family members never spoke about that time and I'm not saying that is good but they focused on the future with all the difficult challenges they run into.

BLM wants to keep talking about slavery that occurred way longer ago then WWII.

Instead they should focus how they can get more out of live like many successful other black people have done and blame black leaders like Obama, Lynch and others who clearly failed them but saying how sad it is for them instead of telling them to follow other people positive example regardless of their color, religion, etc.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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Got statistics? Or, are you just supposing?
Research, historically, has also shown earnings (and other indicators of economic well-being) among Black migrants that, while not competitive with national (White American) norms, nevertheless, surpass the earnings of native-born African Americans. …

https://www.questia.com/library/jour...-socioeconomic

This is another great article that compares Africans and Black Americans. If you cannot see why black Americans react the way they do you are blind.

http://www.theglobalist.com/african-...grants-differ/
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:50 PM
 
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Maybe the same as Jewish people have done...get up and rollet up your sleeves and start working, studying, etc. and stop whining and blaming everyone for things in the past.

Unfortunately slavery is part of history but Jewish people were also slaves and you hardly hear them talking about it.

Many Jewish Holocaust survivors like some of my family members never spoke about that time and I'm not saying that is good but they focused on the future with all the difficult challenges they run into.

BLM wants to keep talking about slavery that occurred way longer ago then WWII.

Instead they should focus how they can get more out of live like many successful other black people have done and blame black leaders like Obama, Lynch and others who clearly failed them but saying how sad it is for them instead of telling them to follow other people positive example regardless of their color, religion, etc.
Another deep thinker!

Thanks, but it does not work for many down in the gutter.

We need a better solutions that simply saying "Jews succeed how come you don't".
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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You win the most absurd post of the day award. No one has been enslaved in the US for generations. African Americans are oppressed by each other, not by whites, not by the government. Blacks from Africa might do better because they don't whine, cry and make excuses for how poor they're doing.

“there is nothing outside of yourself that can ever enable you to get better, stronger, richer, quicker, or smarter. Everything is within. Everything exists. Seek nothing outside of yourself.”
― Miyamoto Musashi, The Book of Five Rings, 1645 AD
Regardless of the causes: There is a massive problem with race relations and many American Blacks are simply going nowhere. I predict that oppressed disenfranchised blacks will become like Isis and start doing domestic terrorism. I think Dallas is just the beginning.
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:58 PM
 
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Please name one Republican (right winger) who is oppressing blacks.
The oppression is perception issue. Many blacks believe they are oppressed and probably see racism where there is none. This is the sad reality that was provocated by slavery and Jim Crow.

In the old days blacks had hope despite not being able to use the bathroom for whites. And now they have lost all hope, they can go anywhere and there are no visible walls to demolish. That Obama won the presidency means nothing.
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