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Old 09-22-2016, 04:50 PM
 
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I think it would be great if this could be done, but how exactly would that happen? Who would set up the safe zone? Who would guard it? The US? The UN? Someone else? Despite Daesh/ISIS/ISIL's caliphate claims, Syria is still a sovereign territory. How would this be done without violating their sovereignity? And how the heck do you keep a "safe zone" safe in the midst of active conflict?
The US and NATO with charter from the UN. First the appropriate land is occupied and a safe parameter established. A camp is being built with all the necessary and vital facilities. After one year the UN gets total control and starts managing the camps. It was done many times in the past. This time however Merkel and Obama decided we need to have these people resettled in Germany, Europe and the US. They insisted on that.
Some of them are not refugees from battle zones, but Arabs from all over the Middle East who decided it's time to move to the west. And by their understanding Europe HAS to accept them in and they won't take no for an answer. And Obama and Merkel are OK with this attitude.
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Old 09-22-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is a serious question.

Why can't we establish a refugee camp in their country? We can provide supplies and even security and let them manage the camp themselves.

Is there any specific reason or is this a cost issue?
Cost aside, who keeps safe areas safe?
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:09 PM
 
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This is a serious question.

Why can't we establish a refugee camp in their country? We can provide supplies and even security and let them manage the camp themselves.

Is there any specific reason or is this a cost issue?
The left falsely believes that they want to come here when they would much rather be in their home country. hmm, makes one wonder if the Libyan disaster was planned.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:19 PM
 
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Creating "safe zones" implies the creators are committed to ensuring the occupants' safety for the duration of whatever crisis compels safe zones in the first place. That will require boots on the ground. Supply routes will also need to be protected by military force. In the case of civil war in a country like Syria, which has forced over a million refugees to flee to nearby Lebanon to live under squalid conditions, this could go on for years. I bear in mind the US' involvement in Somalia started out as well-intentioned humanitarian assistance and devolved from there. Little point IMO of creating more refugee camps if the underlying cause is not also addressed.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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I hear college campuses have lots of safe zones. Put the refugees there.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The left falsely believes that they want to come here when they would much rather be in their home country. hmm, makes one wonder if the Libyan disaster was planned.
The Syrian refugees have been peaceful do you know otherwise.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:43 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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This is a serious question.

Why can't we establish a refugee camp in their country? We can provide supplies and even security and let them manage the camp themselves.
I once wondered the same thing. And with the dangers posed by radical Muslim immigrants one would think republicans would desire/support a plan to establish safe zones so these immigrants do not have to come to America to escape wars.

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Is there any specific reason or is this a cost issue?
Perhaps its because the world has never dealt with a terrorism issue like this before, and America's republicans are only concerned with attacking democrats, and not interested in solving America's actual problems.

I believe its common practice for countries involved in the UN to bring war refugees to other countries. European countries are taking in these war refugees and even Asian countries are being asked to take them. And with a regular war refugee there is no danger of them killing people in the country that gives them asylum, but with these war refugees its different. Perhaps the world has never dealt with war refugees who want to kill people in the country that gives them asylum, and the world has never dealt with a problem like this before?

And with the republican outrage over these Muslim war refugees coming to America one would think republicans in Washington and republican governors would push for "safe zones" to be made in the refugee countries so these war refugees don't have to come to America. But today's republicans focus on attacking democrats and their ideas (without ever offering other logical options.)

And if republicans fixed this refugee issue they would no longer be able to say "democrats are letting in terrorists", and republican political attacks involving terrorists coming to America are a huge part of the 2016 elections (and republicans fixing this problem would take away one of their best campaign messages.)


And perhaps cost is also an issue. It has to be cheaper to buy a war refugee a plane ticket and then set them loose in America, than it is to send US military forces to protect, feed, and govern them in another country.

But one would think that America's high technology military could make a very large "safe zone" with a small number of soldiers, a group of surveillance/attack drones, a group of military helicopters, a nearby aircraft carrier, 2 layers of fences, and some written warning signs.

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Old 09-22-2016, 05:51 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Because we are all human. We should help each other, which actually is why we are the dominant species today.
Good lets start by taking care of our own first. When every American citizen who is desperate for help has been helped, then we can start thinking about spending tax dollars on foreigners.
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Old 09-22-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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Here's an idea, sponsor safe zones in neighboring Muslim nations. Good for the refugees and the Muslim Nations. They can vet the people in the camps, accept the good ones into their societies and take the bad apples out in the desert and put a bullet in their heads. If they don't set foot on our soil, we don't have to give them any rights.

Our administration truly is the dumbest in the history of this nation.
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:34 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Little point IMO of creating more refugee camps if the underlying cause is not also addressed.
Better than bringing them to the West where they don't fit in, become angry and embittered, and some become murderous criminals.
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