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Old 09-06-2016, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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So.

If I remember right, when the auto manufacturers were on their deathbed, right wingers said "let 'em go. Don't bail 'em out. They'll get bought out by more solvent ownership."

When I said "what about all those jobs," Repubs said "no big deal...they're getting paid too much anyway."

So use the same principle now with the coal miners.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Old 09-06-2016, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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So.

If I remember right, when the auto manufacturers were on their deathbed, right wingers said "let 'em go. Don't bail 'em out. They'll get bought out by more solvent ownership."

When I said "what about all those jobs," Repubs said "no big deal...they're getting paid too much anyway."

So use the same principle now with the coal miners.
sigh....It's not the same principle.
Let those companies fail and the profitable parts will be purchased by other companies. That's how it works.
Nothing to do with forcing a business to close because of regulations.

Not a good try even by your low standards.

Remember each side said "our bailouts will work, yours won't". They were both wrong.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 04:24 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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So.

If I remember right, when the auto manufacturers were on their deathbed, right wingers said "let 'em go. Don't bail 'em out. They'll get bought out by more solvent ownership."

When I said "what about all those jobs," Repubs said "no big deal...they're getting paid too much anyway."

So use the same principle now with the coal miners.
Not the same thing. Miners don't get "too much".

Or do you think they do??
 
Old 09-06-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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sigh....It's not the same principle.
Let those companies fail and the profitable parts will be purchased by other companies. That's how it works.
Nothing to do with forcing a business to close because of regulations.

Not a good try even by your low standards.

Remember each side said "our bailouts will work, yours won't". They were both wrong.
Plenty of Auto manufacturers went out of business and no one put them back into solvency by buying them up and reemploying the workers. What guarantee was there that someone was gonna buy up GM or Chrysler? Because Stuart Varney said so?

Nah...they meant "let 'em go out of business and we don't give a damn if they ever open again."

Coal is going downhill. It's an old technology. It's better days are probably long gone in this country.

My low standards? OK...that's a personal shot, but I'll let it ride.
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Not the same thing. Miners don't get "too much".

Or do you think they do??
Auto workers didn't "get too much" either. No one gets too much.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 04:55 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Coal is going downhill. It's an old technology. It's better days are probably long gone in this country.
Coal as been going "downhill" for 70 YEARS.

I live in Pennsylvania, one of the foremost coal producing states in the 19th and 20th Centuries. We had the finest hard anthracite coal in eastern PA and the more common bituminous coal in western PA. In fact coal production and usage peaked around World War 1. Steamships ran on coal fuel (remember the Titanic?). Locomotives ran on coal.

Mourning the loss of coal mining is analogous to mourning the loss of typewriter manufacturers, corset makers, tinsmiths, arrowroot farmers.

Of course there will always be a vestige of this obsolete carbon based fuel, but the glory days of King Coal was over before anyone reading this thread was even born.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Coal jobs are NOT COMING BACK.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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Coal jobs are NOT COMING BACK.

True, but Obama expedited this, greatly reducing employment far faster than it would naturally occur.
 
Old 09-06-2016, 05:25 PM
 
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Coal as been going "downhill" for 70 YEARS.

I live in Pennsylvania, one of the foremost coal producing states in the 19th and 20th Centuries. We had the finest hard anthracite coal in eastern PA and the more common bituminous coal in western PA. In fact coal production and usage peaked around World War 1. Steamships ran on coal fuel (remember the Titanic?). Locomotives ran on coal.

Mourning the loss of coal mining is analogous to mourning the loss of typewriter manufacturers, corset makers, tinsmiths, arrowroot farmers.

Of course there will always be a vestige of this obsolete carbon based fuel, but the glory days of King Coal was over before anyone reading this thread was even born.
I hear that coal production is doing better in the western states.
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