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Ok...why should some voters(those who can not drive) need to plan further ahead than other voters? Why should they be punished more when the id gets lost, stolen, or expires?
A voter registration card should be all that anyone at the polls needs to see. For decades, that was good enough and there hasn't been any change to make other ID forms necessary.
It's sad that one of the major parties has taken on the task of trying to prevent millions of Americans from voting. It speaks volumes about their agenda.
that would not be a problem when a major party has taken in their mind to win by any means necessary. including registering dead people, voting for other people who did not vote for that person, or voting more than once.
nobody should ever vote more than once in an election, and you should only be voting for yourself.
in fact, if voter fraud is found out, then that parties total election results should be thrown out and the opposite party should win the election.
if only American citizens have their voter ID cards, with proper name and picture on it, then the democrat party should be wanting to go along with it instead of trying to subvert federal law like obama is trying to now with fedeal election laws.
The amount of votes to sway an election would need to be very significant, there has been no record of fraud to that extent.
The turnout even in the last few presidential elections is around 50%, the best way to sway an election would be to get registered voters to the poll from your party. The voter fraud that does occur is not some kind of coordinated effort, the numbers are rather inconsequential percentage. The BOE record keeping is not always up to date, death certificates, people moving to other states, there will always be errors but that doesn't amount to widespread fraud.
Dead people voting should be easy to gather statistics regarding fraud yet have not seen nationwide research..
that would not be a problem when a major party has taken in their mind to win by any means necessary. including registering dead people, voting for other people who did not vote for that person, or voting more than once.
nobody should ever vote more than once in an election, and you should only be voting for yourself.
in fact, if voter fraud is found out, then that parties total election results should be thrown out and the opposite party should win the election.
if only American citizens have their voter ID cards, with proper name and picture on it, then the democrat party should be wanting to go along with it instead of trying to subvert federal law like obama is trying to now with fedeal election laws.
It is impossible to register dead people. The State checks the voter Registration against records and if they list the person as dead it won't go through. It is possible that somone who registered and died is still on the registration list until removed. Or that person is out of state.
Ok...why should some voters(those who can not drive) need to plan further ahead than other voters? Why should they be punished more when the id gets lost, stolen, or expires?
The same reason why a handicapped person might have to plan more time to go to the grocery store and why they might require assistance to get something from the top shelf.
Life is never completely fair nor is it possible to make completely fair.
They aren't being punished, just like the grocery store isn't trying to punish a person in a wheelchair with out of reach shelves.
Now all the progressives in here will scream how this entire place leans right
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
The same reason why a handicapped person might have to plan more time to go to the grocery store and why they might require assistance to get something from the top shelf.
Life is never completely fair nor is it possible to make completely fair.
They aren't being punished, just like the grocery store isn't trying to punish a person in a wheelchair with out of reach shelves.
Stop making their heads explode with reasonable analogies.
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Originally Posted by jobber123rd
You can open bank accounts online without ID; in some cases, you just need a Social Security Number and enough credit report related information to correctly answer some challenge questions. This is allowed under the USA PATRIOT Act, and is called "non-documentary verification." I've opened accounts as a new customer at Bank of America and several credit unions in the past five years without showing an ID.
That is an utter lie!
When you open an account online you won't be able to access it or make a deposit until you send several forms of id. I opened an AE savings account last year and had to send copies of my SS card, DL, and a current utility bill. I then had to link a B&M checking account to it in order to make transfers.
Sometimes it's smart not to type your thoughts as if they are facts.
The same reason why a handicapped person might have to plan more time to go to the grocery store and why they might require assistance to get something from the top shelf.
Life is never completely fair nor is it possible to make completely fair.
They aren't being punished, just like the grocery store isn't trying to punish a person in a wheelchair with out of reach shelves.
La difference is that the food in the Grocery store could be purchased by someone else without you present.
Could be purchased at almost any time Walmart stays open longer than the DMV in my state and is open more days. Got a ride a 9p.m. you can make it to Walmart.
Handicapped and need to purchase something Sunday no problem. Handicapped and need to get your id straighten out by Tuesday...problem.
You could get someone to go to the store with you on Sunday, but will they be able to get off work and get you to the DMV in time on Monday or Tuesday....maybe not. Can you get your self the the polling place, maybe. Can they get you to the polling place before it closes(Yes). Can they get you to the DMV before it closed(probably not).
OK...so how does a person who can not drive get said free id in time for the election. and how much does it cost the state to do so.
how does that person get to the polls??
how does that person get to the market??
how does that person get to the doctor??
meanwhile, most cities have masstransit..most states give the id for free, or less than $10
and it doesn't have to be from a DMV....
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The idNYC card is a free municipal ID for all New Yorkers that not only provides government photo identification, but can be used as a library card, gets you free memberships to more than 30 cultural institutions, qualifies you for discounts at health and wellness centers, and a multitude of other benefits.
Ok...why should some voters(those who can not drive) need to plan further ahead than other voters? Why should they be punished more when the id gets lost, stolen, or expires?
Because they cant drive therefore must rely on someone else or public transit. Any situation that puts a person at a disadvantage requires that person must put more effort/planning into their activities.
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