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Op just wants to share a piece of history, why do you always have to make it a black/white issue?
As a minority yourself, you can clearly see that people in the past have fought hard for their voting right. Maybe we shouldn't take our right for granted. Black civil right leaders have fought for HUMAN right.
Come on now.
If there is a race war, we all suffer, regardless the color of our skin. I want to see people united, not divided.
You are complete naive if you think the OP is not race baiting. Lots of people have been treated poorly , and none more than Amerindians who were unfortunately a people with no immunity to live stock born diseases in the neolithic era. They are not causing flash mob violence and are not routinely preying on every other race they come in contact with including their own.
Unfortunately stupid people keep buying into these stories that its about anger with whites. What did Burmese immigrants ever do to blacks? What did Indian Americans ever do to blacks other than be temping targets with their love of gold? Why do they victimize Latinos at a high rate? Many Latinos are even poorer than they are.
There is a black crime problem today, and ancient history is ancient history. How does ancient history solve the problem? A lot of American house wives made Oprah one of the wealthiest people in the country. No one tuned out because she was black. The only problem is people now don't trust blacks and that is because their criminality and social decay has gone unchecked. Excuse after excuse is made so why not make a career out of it? We also have other poor social groups that do not turn into bandits. Crime was slowly going down until someone decided to "unpolice" it. Crime is now sky rocketing.
And this has to do with the present how? This is a factor as to why Mr. Smith, a 17 year black male, decides to engage in drugs and violence instead of pursuing an education and career?
Blacks as a race in the US are poor not because of things that happened 100 years ago, but because of the choices made by an overwhelming number today.
What does the Declaration of Independence have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Treaty of Paris have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Louisiana Purchase have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the War of 1812 have to do with the way things are in America now?
More importantly, take an example of a single individual involved in these historic events......and then ask the question "what does that have to do with today". If you take an individual involved in these events they represent a microcosm of a larger historical phenomenon that helped shaped the future of America. No?
The story presented by the OP is no different. It was the story of an individual whose life was a microcosm for how racial oppression would shape the future of African Americans in this country. That even took place in a larger context and it is that context that has molded what African Americans are collectively today.
Everything EVOLVED into what it is today. Today is 99.99999999 the creation of the PAST. 300 years of racial oppression has a lot to do with the reality of blacks in America today.
These stories are "bread crumbs" that lead to the present condition of African Americans. Follow the bread crumbs back and you will understand how we got where we are today.
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This is just one of the examples of how things happen. There are plenty of stories like this some families
Recovered and a lot of them didn't. Fast forward to today we have come along way and I'm happy for the progress that's been made but we have a long way to go. The story of July Perry
#OcoeeMassacre 1920. He was a very successful black businessman who was an advocate for the economic and political empowerment of black people. He fought for his right to vote at the Nov 2, 1920 elections and was given that right by Judge John Cheney (who was looking to capitalize on the black vote for election into the Senate, but I digress). At the polls his right to vote was not recognized. He was imprisoned that night. A few hours later a white mob dragged him out of the jail cell, tied him to the back of the car and dragged him through the city. They, then, hung him from a light post and riddled his body with bullets. They followed his lynching with burning down the homes of the black community. Those who survived fled into the orange groves and did not return back to their homes in Ocoee. Ocoee became an all white town and no black person entered the area for 60 years. The murderer's and their families stole the land and property of the black residents, including that of July Perry. Anyone who attempted to take his body down was threatened. A photographer took pictures of his body and sold it for 25 cents. White business owners proudly hung the picture of his lynching in their store windows.He was buried in an unmarked grave which did not receive a headstone until 2002 through the efforts of the West Orange Reconciliation Task Force. He is a martyr and hero. His death will not be in vain. We will bring honor to his memory and the victims of the Ocoee Massacre. The best thing anyone can do is spread the word. This massacre was swept under the rug in Florida and national history. Let the secret out so that they can rest in peace.
Good lord, those were some evil (fill in the blank)ers.
What does the Declaration of Independence have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Treaty of Paris have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Louisiana Purchase have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the War of 1812 have to do with the way things are in America now?
More importantly, take an example of a single individual involved in these historic events......and then ask the question "what does that have to do with today". If you take an individual involved in these events they represent a microcosm of a larger historical phenomenon that helped shaped the future of America. No?
The story presented by the OP is no different. It was the story of an individual whose life was a microcosm for how racial oppression would shape the future of African Americans in this country. That even took place in a larger context and it is that context that has molded what African Americans are collectively today.
Everything EVOLVED into what it is today. Today is 99.99999999 the creation of the PAST. 300 years of racial oppression has a lot to do with the reality of blacks in America today.
There is a very good argument that Germany was badly treated in WWI. The war indemnity was particularly cruel and many Germans were starving.
Besides the direct effects of the British blockade, there are the possible indirect and much more damaging effects to consider. A German child who was ten years old in 1918, and who survived, was twenty-two in 1930. Vincent raises the question of whether the miseries and suffering from hunger in the early, formative years help account to some degree for the enthusiasm of German youth for Nazism later on. Drawing on a 1971 article by Peter Loewenberg, he argues in the affirmative.9 Loewenberg's work, however, is a specimen of psychohistory and his conclusions are explicitly founded on psychoanalytic doctrine.
So does this legitimize Nazi Germany? I have seen white nationalists do quite the same thing. Hitler was just doing some pay back. So Nazis have legitimate grievance? Shall we unpolice Nazis?
Do I get to kill Turks ? May I rape and murder Muslims?
You are complete naive if you think the OP is not race baiting. Lots of people have been treated poorly , and none more than Amerindians who were unfortunately a people with no immunity to live stock born diseases in the neolithic era. They are not causing flash mob violence and are not routinely preying on every other race they come in contact with including their own.
Unfortunately stupid people keep buying into these stories that its about anger with whites. What did Burmese immigrants ever do to blacks? What did Indian Americans ever do to blacks other than be temping targets with their love of gold? Why do they victimize Latinos at a high rate? Many Latinos are even poorer than they are.
There is a black crime problem today, and ancient history is ancient history. How does ancient history solve the problem? A lot of American house wives made Oprah one of the wealthiest people in the country. No one tuned out because she was black. The only problem is people now don't trust blacks and that is because their criminality and social decay has gone unchecked. Excuse after excuse is made so why not make a career out of it? We also have other poor social groups that do not turn into bandits. Crime was slowly going down until someone decided to "unpolice" it. Crime is now sky rocketing.
Oh I wasn't race baiting just highlighting How and where generational proverty came from. Just highlighting why the wealth gap is the way it is etc. Lets not cherry pick what history we wanna celebrate and what history we will sleep under a rug.
What does the Declaration of Independence have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Treaty of Paris have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the Louisiana Purchase have to do with the way things are in America now?
What does the War of 1812 have to do with the way things are in America now?
More importantly, take an example of a single individual involved in these historic events......and then ask the question "what does that have to do with today". If you take an individual involved in these events they represent a microcosm of a larger historical phenomenon that helped shaped the future of America. No?
The story presented by the OP is no different. It was the story of an individual whose life was a microcosm for how racial oppression would shape the future of African Americans in this country. That even took place in a larger context and it is that context that has molded what African Americans are collectively today.
Everything EVOLVED into what it is today. Today is 99.99999999 the creation of the PAST. 300 years of racial oppression has a lot to do with the reality of blacks in America today.
These stories are "bread crumbs" that lead to the present condition of African Americans. Follow the bread crumbs back and you will understand how we got where we are today.
Why can Colin Powell and Obama rise to the top but you can't? Because of slavery that happened a century ago?
Yet you provided nothing to support your claim. No, it's not your responsibility to teach me your fabrication.
"Interracial crime
In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa."
Good lord, those were some evil (fill in the blank)ers.
OP - Horrible story but thanks for sharing.
You welcome .. There are dozens of stories like this one that happened in the South. These stories were just swept under a rug. Its important that this piece of history doesnt go unrecognized
Besides the direct effects of the British blockade, there are the possible indirect and much more damaging effects to consider. A German child who was ten years old in 1918, and who survived, was twenty-two in 1930. Vincent raises the question of whether the miseries and suffering from hunger in the early, formative years help account to some degree for the enthusiasm of German youth for Nazism later on. Drawing on a 1971 article by Peter Loewenberg, he argues in the affirmative.9 Loewenberg's work, however, is a specimen of psychohistory and his conclusions are explicitly founded on psychoanalytic doctrine.
So does this legitimize Nazi Germany? I have seen white nationalists do quite the same thing. Hitler was just doing some pay back. So Nazis have legitimate grievance? Shall we unpolice Nazis?
Do I get to kill Turks ? May I rape and murder Muslims?
Why can Colin Powell and Obama rise to the top but you can't? Because of slavery that happened a century ago?
Like many successful blacks in the 30s 40s 50s and 60s they had to fight threw alot of stuff to rise to the top. Jim Crow just ended some 50 years ago. Yet there still income inequality and housing discrimination going on.
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