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Old 09-16-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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...the contradicting views, interest, etc. of the two groups that they try to recruit?

Group 1: Muslims

Group 2: LGBT community
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Old 09-16-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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...the contradicting views, interest, etc. of the two groups that they try to recruit?

Group 1: Muslims

Group 2: LGBT community
They won't, they will pretend those views don't exist. When you live in a utopia of unicorns and rainbows, anything you wish can exist or not exist at will.
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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The right question is this: why is the Republican Party hostile to potential constituents of Muslim descent and LGBTQ identity?
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Old 09-16-2016, 11:13 AM
 
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The common thread for Leftists is ~ members of both groups aren't Christians. It's the latter group they all hate.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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The common thread for Leftists is ~ members of both groups aren't Christians. It's the latter group they all hate.
This makes no sense. Most Christians, with the exception of evangelicals, lean toward the Democratic party. Also, being LGBT does not preclude one from being Christian. And being Muslim does not preclude one from being LGBT. Even being an evangelical doesn't mean that someone isn't gay.
U.S. religious groups and their political leanings | Pew Research Center
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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This makes no sense. Most Christians, with the exception of evangelicals, lean toward the Democratic party. Also, being LGBT does not preclude one from being Christian. And being Muslim does not preclude one from being LGBT. Even being an evangelical doesn't mean that someone isn't gay.
U.S. religious groups and their political leanings | Pew Research Center
"Being X does not preclude one from being Y."

You seem to have no understanding of the difference between norm and exception.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Mountain Home, ID
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...the contradicting views, interest, etc. of the two groups that they try to recruit?

Group 1: Muslims

Group 2: LGBT community
I don't see why conservatives think this argument is such a huge gotcha. The liberals will tell the anti-LGBT Muslims they can't enforce their anti-LGBT views on the community, same as they do with the anti-LGBT Christians and black people. Just because you support a group of people doesn't mean you have to support everything about them.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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"Being X does not preclude one from being Y."

You seem to have no understanding of the difference between norm and exception.
Normal and exception what? We're all human. And here it says that 53% of LGBT are religious and 47% are not. There is room in our great country to those who are religious and those who are not, as well as those who are straight and those who are LGBT. You don't need to categorize everyone and pit them against each other.
LGBT Population in U.S. Significantly Less Religious
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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I don't see why conservatives think this argument is such a huge gotcha. The liberals will tell the anti-LGBT Muslims they can't enforce their anti-LGBT views on the community, same as they do with the anti-LGBT Christians and black people. Just because you support a group of people doesn't mean you have to support everything about them.
There is a difference between Blacks and Christians who don't agree with the life style of LGBT and might go as far as "I don't like you and don't want to socialize with you," and Muslims with their Sharia law that "we'll stone you to death," just like there is a difference between a kitten and a full grown male lion.
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Old 09-16-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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...the contradicting views, interest, etc. of the two groups that they try to recruit?

Group 1: Muslims

Group 2: LGBT community
What exactly is the contradiction? You must identify it for this to be answerable. I know what you're getting at, of course. I'm not an idiot. But it's still on you to explain why, in principle, it's a contradiction of the state Democratic values.

To give a quick answer, supporting one's right to worship whatever they want is not an endorsement of those beliefs. Muslims are generally less on board with the rights of homosexuals than the rest of American culture, which actually also includes Christians. Most Christians tend to have less problem with homosexuals now than they did in the past, rather or not they support same sex marriage. There's a myth going around the Democrats don't like Christians, but that's not the case. They are more willing to be openly hostile towards Fundamentalists Christians, a group who's hijacked the Republican party. It's for this reason they are hostile. Fundamentalist Christians are generally Republicans. Their influence is finally waning, but the perception that the Republican party is the party of God still remains and likely will for some time. The thing is, Democrats will support the rights of homosexuals regardless; while one is allowed to disagree, anything deemed illegal or mistreatment will still be considered wrong, regardless of religion.
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