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Old 07-04-2019, 01:49 PM
 
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From Ann Widdecombe, one of the new TBP MEPs in her fiery, short maiden speech in the EU “Parliament”. Focuses on the EU Commission (the real power) having ignored the candidates for the top boss put up by the Parliament (agreed procedure) and in 3 days of private , hidden arguments between France and Germany (including an all-night session) picking others – extreme EU supporters.

One error was for her to use the word “election”; it was a “selection”. The EU media outraged by her speech - not reporting shouts of support from MEPs from many smaller countries. Youtube doesn’t have her opening that “representing largest Party from any country here”.

Nigel looks pleased she is there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwRhkWpnuI

 
Old 07-04-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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Just read about the fuss about this woman's remarks

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48869520
They do not want to be ruled by those people. They voted on it, in fact. It is time for the EU to let the people of the UK go. But the EU leaders quite clearly are resistant towards allowing them to do that.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 01:58 PM
 
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From Ann Widdecombe, one of the new TBP MEPs in her fiery, short maiden speech in the EU “Parliament”. Focuses on the EU Commission (the real power) having ignored the candidates for the top boss put up by the Parliament (agreed procedure) and in 3 days of private , hidden arguments between France and Germany (including an all-night session) picking others – extreme EU supporters.

One error was for her to use the word “election”; it was a “selection”. The EU media outraged by her speech - not reporting shouts of support from MEPs from many smaller countries. Youtube doesn’t have her opening that “representing largest Party from any country here”.

Nigel looks pleased she is there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwRhkWpnuI
That looks like a very excellent speech to me.

Also, what happened yesterday is that the top leaders of the EU government were decided in a backroom, without transparency, and in contradiction to the agreed upon process. It was extremely anti-democratic, which the EU routinely demonstrates itself to be.

That is the way that people who believe in unfettered socialism are. They profess to be all in favor of democracy, until it does not provide the outcome that they want, and then they ignore the democratically determined decision, usually insisting that it was not "legitimate" for one reason or another. Or, they just craft an alternative behind closed doors before any democratic process has even been allowed to work, and then tell those who complain to support it or else.

The UK is right to have chosen to leave this undemocratic organization. They will do much better on their own.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 02:00 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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They do not want to be ruled by those people. They voted on it, in fact. It is time for the EU to let the people of the UK go. But the EU leaders quite clearly are resistant towards allowing them to do that.
As much as I dislike the current EU, Britain could already be out if they had been serious about it and willing to take the consequences of a no-deal Brexit. The reason they are still in is that Britain is deeply split on the Brexit.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 02:31 PM
 
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Lmao, you've even adopted the maniac's absurd rhetoric.
Says the person who is so deranged they continue to only post about Trump in a topic that has nothing to do with it. Time to put on the big boy pants, grow up and move on.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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As much as I dislike the current EU, Britain could already be out if they had been serious about it and willing to take the consequences of a no-deal Brexit. The reason they are still in is that Britain is deeply split on the Brexit.

Well that's just it isn't it? The people voted to leave. The politicans they elected to lead them refuse to do it. Isn't that also the whole point of leaving the EU. (and they didn't want that either)
 
Old 07-04-2019, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Says the person who is so deranged they continue to only post about Trump in a topic that has nothing to do with it. Time to put on the big boy pants, grow up and move on.
LMAO, says the person who has so implanted Trump's entire mindset that it even colors your speech on nonrelated subjects now.

Time to put on the big boy pants, grow up and admit he's not a genius worthy of such emulation.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Well that's just it isn't it? The people voted to leave. The politicans they elected to lead them refuse to do it. Isn't that also the whole point of leaving the EU. (and they didn't want that either)
And the Brexit advocates are deathly afraid of a new vote as they fear that would be the end of Brexit. Think about it. If the Brexiteers were confident of their ability to carry a new vote they would be all over it. Their well placed fear is that the populace is no longer enamored of Brexit and would vote it down.

So they attempt to make it an issue of carrying out the people's directive even though they think that is likely no longer true. Force what they want but which may well no longer be the desired direction of the populace.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 04:01 PM
 
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And the Brexit advocates are deathly afraid of a new vote as they fear that would be the end of Brexit. Think about it. If the Brexiteers were confident of their ability to carry a new vote they would be all over it. Their well placed fear is that the populace is no longer enamored of Brexit and would vote it down.

So they attempt to make it an issue of carrying out the people's directive even though they think that is likely no longer true. Force what they want but which may well no longer be the desired direction of the populace.
And then to be fair - IF the Remainers won the second time around - you would have to have another one after that, to make it the best two out of three.

Unless the standard is to keep having votes until the establishment left gets its way, and then that will be the last one. Very undemocratic.
 
Old 07-04-2019, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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And then to be fair - IF the Remainers won the second time around - you would have to have another one after that, to make it the best two out of three.

Unless the standard is to keep having votes until the establishment left gets its way, and then that will be the last one. Very undemocratic.
Actually I would not be surprised to see it voted on every few years. Anything that more than 40% of the population wants is not going to go away.

Eventually a consensus may develop. But they may also be still voting in 50 years.

As I suspect you know perhaps the biggest issue is intra EU migration. That is a thing not likely to last more than a decade or two.
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