Washington mall shooter voted illegally in 3 elections (employment, global warming, attorney)
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I'm not a liberal, but liberals do say that this sort of fraud happens primarily via absentee ballots. Washingston State is a mail ballot vote state only so they are more apt to have voter fraud.
If you care about voter fraud, you should want reform for absentee ballots or mail in ballots.
FYI to posters, the voter ID would not have made a difference.
I am against voter IDs because they waste time and money. Absentee ballots are the primary sources of voter fraud.
Washington state is one of 3 states that does all their voting by mail or absentee ballots so it is not surprising to me that this fraud occurred.
Isn't the answer to have those absentee and mail ballots verified against an updated voting register that only lists citizens eligible to vote and also require a state ID containing a citizen box checked for in person voting?
FYI to posters, the voter ID would not have made a difference.
I am against voter IDs because they waste time and money.
All it takes to register online to vote is a valid driver license or state-issued ID card. It seems to me that any non-citizen, or anyone who has lost their privilege to vote, should be noted as such in the state's databases and on the cards themselves. It would be easy to keep them from registering to vote, and a voter ID check would make it clear to the poll workers that the person should not be given a ballot.
FYI to posters, the voter ID would not have made a difference.
I am against voter IDs because they waste time and money. Absentee ballots are the primary sources of voter fraud.
Washington state is one of 3 states that does all their voting by mail or absentee ballots so it is not surprising to me that this fraud occurred.
Exactly, I assume he had a drivers license, documented residence, and he attended high school so voter ID's would not have prevented his ability to vote.
Isn't the answer to have those absentee and mail ballots verified against an updated voting register that only lists citizens eligible to vote and also require a state ID containing a citizen box checked for in person voting?
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All it takes to register online to vote is a valid driver license or state-issued ID card. It seems to me that any non-citizen, or anyone who has lost their privilege to vote, should be noted as such in the state's databases and on the cards themselves. It would be easy to keep them from registering to vote, and a voter ID check would make it clear to the poll workers that the person should not be given a ballot.
On these, to obtain a DL you have to bring in a birth certificate in WA and be a citizen. So not sure how he even got a ballot.
That is also a reason why I don't agree with voter ID laws since voter registration is already driven by providing some proof of citizenship. Evidently, if he voted in his name via a mail in ballot, the registrar is the one who f-d up on this one and the county of residence or state. People who go to the polls, even before voter ID laws, showed proof of their registration/name on election day and their names are checked off as having voted so you cannot vote more than once. For mail in ballots/absentee they just send a form to your house and you fill it out and mail it back or drop it off at the polling place. Nobody checks to make sure you are who you say you are.
In order to get a ballot mailed to you you have to be registered to vote and to register you have to provide proof of citizenship. Instead of requiring voters to jump through hoops for voting at the polls, the counties/states need to be more actively involved in monitoring voter registration lists and auditing them for accuracy.
If they won't punish a person for violating our immigration laws, I have zero confidence they will do much to prosecute the ones who would violate our voting laws.
I can hear it now, "Arresting people for voting will scare those who can legally vote but don't understand the issue. It will unfairly target minorities and the elderly."
You know it's true.
Enforcing the law is racist......
Apparently he was also deported multiple times too.
But arresting him for coming back would also be racist, so.....
On these, to obtain a DL you have to bring in a birth certificate in WA and be a citizen. So not sure how he even got a ballot.
That is also a reason why I don't agree with voter ID laws since voter registration is already driven by providing some proof of citizenship. Evidently, if he voted in his name via a mail in ballot, the registrar is the one who f-d up on this one and the county of residence or state. People who go to the polls, even before voter ID laws, showed proof of their registration/name on election day and their names are checked off as having voted so you cannot vote more than once. For mail in ballots/absentee they just send a form to your house and you fill it out and mail it back or drop it off at the polling place. Nobody checks to make sure you are who you say you are.
In order to get a ballot mailed to you you have to be registered to vote and to register you have to provide proof of citizenship. Instead of requiring voters to jump through hoops for voting at the polls, the counties/states need to be more actively involved in monitoring voter registration lists and auditing them for accuracy.
There are two things that must be done to secure our elections:
1. We need to have up to date voter eligibility databases.
2. We need to verify the ballot is cast by the person verified to be in that database.
To do this, mail-in and absentee votes should require having a piece of information to be written on the ballot that verifies the identity of the voter such as last four of SS or an ID number. State IDs need to designate whether a person in a citizen. In-person voting requires showing a state ID.
Exactly, I assume he had a drivers license, documented residence, and he attended high school so voter ID's would not have prevented his ability to vote.
Then we need to look at the requirements for registering to vote and insist registration be done in person in order to verify citizenship.
If we are issuing driver's licenses to illegals, they should not be able to use these to register.
Hell, Facebook is asking to register people now.
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