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Old 10-10-2016, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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I don't get offended when I see a white person with dreads, however, I do feel a certain way when I, a Black person, had dreads, all I got was police harassment and the door shut in my face professionally. But a white person with dreads doesn't go through any of that. I just don't think it's fair.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:08 PM
 
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I don't get offended when I see a white person with dreads, however, I do feel a certain way when I, a Black person, had dreads, all I got was police harassment and the door shut in my face professionally. But a white person with dreads doesn't go through any of that. I just don't think it's fair.
I'll "profile" an anglo white dude I don't know wearing dreads as a hardcore stoner, and, I'm def "white" myself.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:12 PM
 
Location: London
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My hair will start to form dreads just by not thoroughly brushing it for 2 days.
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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African hair is naturally woolly, and will dread up quickly, if not combed. But let me guess, whites and asians invented dreadlocks.

Why is it so hard for you to believe that multiple cultures around the world evolved dreadlocks separately?
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Old 10-10-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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My hair will start to form dreads just by not thoroughly brushing it for 2 days.
Your hair is racist.

Send it to sensitivity training.

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Old 10-10-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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It is cultural appropriation. By definition. Cultural appropriation is the adoption of a custom from one culture into another.
I don't know who made that definition authoritative.

The first time I heard the phrase "cultural appropriation," it was by Navajo Indians protesting white-owned companies mass-producing Navajo turquoise jewelry designs and selling them as "Navajo jewelry." Unfortunately, cultural designs can't be copyrighted in the US, so the Navajos Indians can't really do more legally than complain. But I'd call that "cultural appropriation."

Then in the 40s and 50s there were record companies that took the work of black musicians and covered it by white musicians, giving little compensation to the black originators. I'd call that "cultural appropriation."

In both cases, cultural concepts were "appropriated" by the fact that they were turned to profit that was not shared with the originators.

That would be my definition of "cultural appropriation." If a white hair stylist started doing Zulu coils and claimed, "I invented this hot new style," I'd call that cultural appropriation. If he said, "I was inspired by African hair styles and copied certain aspects in my own designs," I would not call that cultural appropriation.

Bo Derek's popularizing cornrows led fairly directly to the US Air Force allowing black women to wear cornrows (which had previously been explicitly forbidden). That was not a bad thing.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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I don't know who made that definition authoritative.

The first time I heard the phrase "cultural appropriation," it was by Navajo Indians protesting white-owned companies mass-producing Navajo turquoise jewelry designs and selling them as "Navajo jewelry." Unfortunately, cultural designs can't be copyrighted in the US, so the Navajos Indians can't really do more legally than complain. But I'd call that "cultural appropriation."

Then in the 40s and 50s there were record companies that took the work of black musicians and covered it by white musicians, giving little compensation to the black originators. I'd call that "cultural appropriation."

In both cases, cultural concepts were "appropriated" by the fact that they were turned to profit that was not shared with the originators.

That would be my definition of "cultural appropriation." If a white hair stylist started doing Zulu coils and claimed, "I invented this hot new style," I'd call that cultural appropriation. If he said, "I was inspired by African hair styles and copied certain aspects in my own designs," I would not call that cultural appropriation.

Bo Derek's popularizing cornrows led fairly directly to the US Air Force allowing black women to wear cornrows (which had previously been explicitly forbidden). That was not a bad thing.
Agreed, you nailed it IMHO.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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20 pages over hairstyle. We're frickin' doomed. Now I understand how we came to Hillary and Trump.
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Old 10-10-2016, 05:54 PM
 
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20 pages over hairstyle. We're frickin' doomed. Now I understand how we came to Hillary and Trump.
Hairstyle is about as relevant as all the other tripe that gets discussed on this forum.
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