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Old 10-12-2016, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Yawn. More people who have no idea what ICANN is or does
And more people who are way too trusting, complacent, and willing to be led from afar. So what's new?
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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The One World Order Globalist had to do it. They can't take control if free speech is allowed. Everyone must have one opinion and it will be the one they decide you should have.
The day will come when the liberal will wake up and realize they are a slave and they did it to themselves. They got what they ask for and realize it isn't what they thought it would be. Idiots.
The problem the idiots are taking the rest of us with them.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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The problem the idiots are taking the rest of us with them.
Calm down, I do not like this and think it was bad but we are the United States and still have a little sway within the UN.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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1. If it makes not change why change it?
Because standardization can't be forced and so neutrality becomes pretty important. If China declares that henceforth their ISPs will run according to a new standards organization, ICANN couldn't do one damn thing about it. That would mean a Balkanized Internet - and that's, from a technical point of view, the nightmare scenario.

ICANN does not hold the sort of power people imagine. It only works because there's a consensus that it'll be a neutral arbiter working in the best interest of the global Internet. And the US government doesn't have the best reputation for unscrupulous neutrality.
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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...consensus that it'll be a neutral arbiter working in the best interest of the global Internet...
I have no confidence that it will in the fullness of time be anything like "neutral." I think a move toward "global" oversight means the social engineering goals of the EU and the UN will be applied, subtly at first, and with ever-growing reach and influence.
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Old 10-12-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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I have no confidence that it will in the fullness of time be anything like "neutral." I think a move toward "global" oversight means the social engineering goals of the EU and the UN will be applied, subtly at first, and with ever-growing reach and influence.
How, specifically, will ICANN do that? Difficulty level: Nobody actually has to do what they say. ICANN is an absurdly boring bureaucracy engaging in committee wars over whether ".beer" should be a valid TLD. It's not a sinister entity with wiretaps in every meet-me room.
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Old 10-12-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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Unfortunately it does. Courts and legislators tend to be very behind and both make mistakes that cost average everyday people.

The United States should have kept control of the Internet and if anyone else wanted theirs they could have created it. There have been several attempts.
Being able to configure an EGP is irrelevant to the issue here, its a routing protocol, not a declaration of ICANN policy and workings. The point was that the poster was claiming their technical knowledge of network tools somehow validated their claim without any need to provide an argument rebuttal or explain why their claim was right.

It was nothing more than an appeal to authority fallacy to dismiss.
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Old 10-12-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Being able to configure an EGP is irrelevant to the issue here, its a routing protocol, not a declaration of ICANN policy and workings. The point was that the poster was claiming their technical knowledge of network tools somehow validated their claim without any need to provide an argument rebuttal or explain why their claim was right.

It was nothing more than an appeal to authority fallacy to dismiss.

Right.
He gave us his CV.. Big woop!
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Old 10-12-2016, 06:35 PM
 
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Calm down, I do not like this and think it was bad but we are the United States and still have a little sway within the UN.
Oh, Okay! The same people who are leading climate change......little doesn't mean much!
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Old 10-12-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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Right.
He gave us his CV.. Big woop!
Provide an actual argument. As I posted, I am not going to sit through 2 hours of Breitbarted video with a notepad.
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