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LOTS of male rockers wore makeup in the 70s and 80s, even very heavy makeup. There was the 70s David Bowie androgyny and the 80s hair bands, but it was all theatrical. Regular guys wearing makeup in everyday life looks silly.
Men have lost a lot of their masculinity. It used to be rare to see an effeminate guy in places like a hardware store but now it is not unusual. The last cashier I used at Home Depot was flouncing as he rang up my drill bits.
I don't mind moderate metro (stylish)men but it is really getting to where you do not know who is gay or not making it hard for a hetro woman looking to meet guys.
LOTS of male rockers wore makeup in the 70s and 80s, even very heavy makeup. There was the 70s David Bowie androgyny and the 80s hair bands, but it was all theatrical. Regular guys wearing makeup in everyday life looks silly.
Men have lost a lot of their masculinity. It used to be rare to see an effeminate guy in places like a hardware store but now it is not unusual. The last cashier I used at Home Depot was flouncing as he rang up my drill bits.
I don't mind moderate metro (stylish)men but it is really getting to where you do not know who is gay or not making it hard for a hetro woman looking to meet guys.
I would expect lots of gay men in hardware stores since they tend to do a lot of home improvements and renovations. In the Houston area, gay men tend to be a large segment of the people who will start buying in up and coming urban areas. They buy homes in rundown neighborhoods with good locations, renovate them and sell them to the DINKs for a nice profit.
Gay men in a hardware store is about as unusual as lesbians in a sporting goods store.
It's also been my personal experience that most gay men are not very effeminate.
LOTS of male rockers wore makeup in the 70s and 80s, even very heavy makeup. There was the 70s David Bowie androgyny and the 80s hair bands, but it was all theatrical. Regular guys wearing makeup in everyday life looks silly.
Men have lost a lot of their masculinity. It used to be rare to see an effeminate guy in places like a hardware store but now it is not unusual. The last cashier I used at Home Depot was flouncing as he rang up my drill bits.
I don't mind moderate metro (stylish)men but it is really getting to where you do not know who is gay or not making it hard for a hetro woman looking to meet guys.
Get out of the urban areas and look for guys wearing cowboy hats and Wranglers and you'll be pretty safe. (Brokeback Mountain was just a movie!). In an urban area...yeah I can see your point. Let me save you some time-if a "male" has more different colors of hair than a parrot-stay away.
Your genetic code decides if you are a man. Makeup and Capri pants won't change your genetic code.
Masculinity is another story.
Your genetic code decides if you're a male, not a man. Your intestinal fortitude dictates if you're a man. I suppose that wouldn't rule out a fella in capris and makeup 100% of the time, but it's gonna rule'em out more times than not, I imagine.
My dad fits society's definition of "masculinity." He is a Vietnam vet, a hunter, fisherman, cuts wood, carries an ax, can lift heavy things... and if he decided to wear makeup, he'd still be a man. It wouldn't affect a thing about him or his masculinity. In fact, I'd argue that if seeing a man wearing makeup upsets someone, it's because that person has a problem with their own masculinity... not the other way around. People express themselves in ways that might be different from how you or I would do it. But it doesn't make it wrong. Let people do their thing and be okay with it. If it's not hurting anyone else, what's it to anyone else? Ridiculing other people is something most people grow out of in middle school.
56 percent of Generation Z know someone relating to gender-neutral pronouns of "they," "them," or "ze;"
Only 44 percent bought clothes restricted for their gender;
70 percent support gender-neutral bathrooms.
Interesting generational switch, if true, because I know zero persons that call themselves "ze" or "them" or "they." LOL.
But I have no problem per se with younger dudes wearing makeup if that is the trend and if it looks good on them.
Otherwise it would be weird to me due to my own generational upbringing. But no foul no harm.
The way in which I think it can potentially be a negative for the US as a whole (but then maybe that would be a good for the rest of the planet) is if it is part of a broader metro-sexual culture in the US in that would also correspond to an effeminacy in males in which they pride themselves on their beauty, superior culture, superior intelligence and academic learning, whilst refusing to engage in military combat but rather seek "lesser" people hire out out to do their national dirty work of fighting others.
That is what happened to Byzantium, at least that is the impression you get from the impressions Western Crusaders had of them. The Crusaders were largely illiterate and barbaric. Like Hell's Angels motorcycle members with long hair (I must credit another historian for that image and analogy) riding on big Harley hogs.
The men of Byzantium had an exceptionally trained professional military that blended the attributes of Eastern nomadic horsemen (like the Mongols and Scythians) with those of the Western knightly traditions and armor. However, Byzantium reached a cultural point in which these learned and cultured people could no longer get enough men to field its military ranks.
The Crusaders viewed the men of Byzantium, in terms of their dress and mannerisms, as effiminate, womanish. And Byzantium rightly viewed the Crusaders as barbarians (they had no professional military either, just certain men of chivalry dedicate to learning and using the skills of warfare, but they were not organized in a professional manner like the Byzantines or the Turks).
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