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Old 11-24-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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That's just given to them.
Get over yourself please! So housing and healthcare are just for those privileged folk? There's smarter and harder working people than you out there that dont have as much. I bet you were handed more than you'll ever admit to here. Consider yourself fortunate to not have bad breaks hurt you, or if they did, be glad your were born into enough privilege to get help to overcome it.

Oh btw, how much actually in America is GIVEN to people, especially at the federal level. If someone in MN gets taxpayer paid Medical Assistance, doesn;t that only come from MN taxpayers? If you have kids, the taxes of many child free taxpayers paid for your kids public school!! Weren;t those schools in effect "given" to you?? What exactly is 100% GIVEN to people, and if so, how much and for how long? When I worked with DHS, lots of bennies had so many strings attached it was easier to just work and not deal with it. I'm so sick of everything being called an "entitlement" You were born in to some degree of privilege-be thankful and grateful, not judgemental
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Old 11-24-2016, 06:27 PM
 
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With the acceptance of EBT/SNAP cards at the following restaurants, could this be contributing to the obesity epidemic?


KFC
Papa Murphy’s Pizza
Pizza Hut
Taco Bell


Subway
  • Church’s Chicken
  • Eight Mile Pancake House
  • Grandma’s Famous Chicken
  • McDonald’s
  • Mr T’s BBQ
Each restaurant may have healthy choices but many have very few. While I love KFC.. I try not to eat there that often.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:26 PM
 
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The same reason they don't have a healthy diet is the same reason they are poor - no discipline or the ability to delay gratification. Low intelligence in most cases too.

Absolutely, then poor-people blame everyone else for their dire circumstances.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Ironically, obesity may be the result of government meddling in the diet of Americans.
The deliberate replacement of fat with carbohydrates, per government dictates, has triggered the obesity epidemic.

https://www.rt.com/usa/359127-sugar-...aked-research/
.... The sugar industry paid Harvard researchers in the 1960s to bury research linking sugar intake to heart disease and to instead make fat the culprit, according to a study of archival documents.
"These internal documents show that the Sugar Research Foundation initiated coronary heart disease research in 1965 to protect market share and that its first project, a literature review, was published in the New English Journal of Medicine without disclosure of the sugar industry's funding or role," stated the study.
https://authoritynutrition.com/top-9...d-cholesterol/
.... Because of a few bad studies and misguided political decisions, the low fat high carb diet was recommended to all Americans in the year 1977.
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Europeans visiting America often comment on how sickeningly sweet our foods are - especially meats. This is due to the removal of fat and substituting sugars and carbohydrates.

When the obese switch to a HIGH FAT, moderate protein, low carbohydrate diet, they experience fat loss, decrease in appetite, no hunger pangs, and no uncontrollable binge eating.
Though the medical consensus is that ketogenic diets are not for the long term, it appears that they may in error.
Coincidentally, before refrigeration, American Indian's staple food was pemmican, 80% fat, and may be the explanation why Indians swell up when eating a high carb diet.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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Absolutely, then poor-people blame everyone else for their dire circumstances.
What's with the putting down of poor people? You've never struggled before?

If not, consider yourself lucky. But you should show some more humility with the knowledge that you can end up poor too. Quick. It doesn't take much, and you're not someone that it can't happen to.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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One of those obese homeless American men living in LA.

Full story: Video of Homeless Man’s Compound Beneath 110 Freeway Goes Viral; Officials Work to Tear it Down | KTLA

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beneath the 110 Freeway near the Coliseum — he calls it “Paradise Lane” — to chortle and take selfies.
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"His quarters are so spacious that another homeless man is paying him $25 a week to rent a tent, sandwiched between the “guest room” and a third mattress and headboard."]His quarters are so spacious that another homeless man is paying him $25 a week to rent a tent, sandwiched between the “guest room” and a third mattress and headboard.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4GSWu1FlwIg

Looks like a pretty obese dude to me.

I guess money can't buy you happiness though. Considering rapper Eminim's ex-wife tried committing suicide by ramming her Cadillac Escalade SUV into a tree or pole. And Robin Williams committed suicide even though he was very monetarily rich.

This homeless dude is resourceful but more interestingly he keeps his spirit up. I have to give it to him. I doubt I would be as upbeat and positive if I were in his same situation.

I read in a different article that two guys, one with a pistol, tried robbing him for money one night in his bed. Well... his bed in in the open, outdoors in the public, under an f'ing highway. Yeah, that might put you in danger. He also spoke of a homeless woman in LA sleeping in a bed under a high way getting pinned in after a car ran into her bed.
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:06 PM
 
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Most poor people tend to have low intelligence, which is why they have poor eating habits. They lack long term planning abilities and live in the moment. Some want to make excuses for the plight of poor people, but the truth is that they're just dumb.
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Most poor people tend to have low intelligence, which is why they have poor eating habits. They lack long term planning abilities and live in the moment. Some want to make excuses for the plight of poor people, but the truth is that they're just dumb.
I suspect that the government's meddling in the food supply is the root cause of the obesity epidemic.

The substitution of carbs for fat in the American diet triggered it all.

Ironically, fat is a CHEAPER food than carbs.

You can eat far better on a HIGH FAT, moderate protein, low carb diet. . . like the previous generations did.

Even the Amerindians ate a high fat diet (pemmican was 80% fat!).
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Trans fats, high-fructose corn syrup in everything, artificial colors and flavors, preservatives, a fast food drive-thru every 2 blocks where you can get 2000 calories for $5, added fat/sugar combinations that act like a drug on your brain to block that feeling of fullness and activate dopamine centers, car-centric cities and suburbs...it's hard not to be at least a little overweight considering the American lifestyle.
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Old 11-24-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: 2 blocks from bay in L.I, NY
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... and fresh vegetable and fruits are expensive, provide less energy.
This is simply NOT TRUE at all. Fresh fruits and vegetables in season are not too expensive. You can get a pound or bushel for less than the price of a value meal at the fastfood places. At most grocery stores including Walmart which is always in low-income areas, these are the prices: 5 lb of potatoes is around $2.99, tomatoes 1 lb for $1.50, carrots 1 lb for $1 or sometimes even .69 cents as are banana, squash, lettuce, cucumbers, greens, kale, dry beans, oranges (3 for $1), apples (most expensive when not in season), grapefruit, are usually less than $2 for one or a lb, depending on how it's sold. Grapes, pineapples, berries, pumpkins, and melons may cost more than that but still you can get them for less than a value meal at fastfoods.

When I see comments like yours, I can never understand it because anyone who shops for fruit and vegetables knows better. The higher-end supermarkets such as Whole Foods, Publix, Albertson's, Kroger's, Health food supermarkets, and the like will have slightly higher prices depending on which you go to but it's a matter of using the lower priced grocers for the majority of what you want and only shopping at the more expensive ones for items that are on sale.

Unfortunately, I only see these types of erroneous comments about fruit and vegetables being too expensive by posters who want to defend obesity and unhealthy eating.
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