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Which he had every right to do if engaged in self defense.
And yes the officer is compelled to immediately assess the situation and do the right thing. And yes he will be second guessed afterward. That is the standard practice.
At the point he was engaged by the officer who was attacking him? If he was waving knives around in "self defense" why did he not put them down when the cavalry arrived in the form of the officer?
My question was about how the officer was supposed to know the kid was "confused" or "mentally agitated" or had "learning problems". No one knew that until after the fact. How could the officer tell that just by looking at him waving knives around?
At the point he was engaged by the officer who was attacking him? If he was waving knives around in "self defense" why did he not put them down when the cavalry arrived in the form of the officer?
My question was about how the officer was supposed to know the kid was "confused" or "mentally agitated" or had "learning problems". No one knew that until after the fact. How could the officer tell that just by looking at him waving knives around?
Again I don't know that he was aware of the presence of the Police Officer or that the officer ever really made contact before shooting. I would suspect that will eventually be a crucial finding.
The officer would presume a scrawny 14 year old running around with two knives was out of his head. Otherwise he would not be running around waving two knives. So the question is under what conditions do you shoot in such a situation. If he was obviously closing on another kid it could well be time to shoot. If not then not so clear. I cannot see a definitive answer to that question in what I have seen or read.
Again I don't know that he was aware of the presence of the Police Officer or that the officer ever really made contact before shooting. I would suspect that will eventually be a crucial finding.
The officer would presume a scrawny 14 year old running around with two knives was out of his head. Otherwise he would not be running around waving two knives. So the question is under what conditions do you shoot in such a situation. If he was obviously closing on another kid it could well be time to shoot. If not then not so clear. I cannot see a definitive answer to that question in what I have seen or read.
Then stop assuming and guessing and when the officer should or shouldn't shoot. You have absolutely no clue what really did or didn't happen. Just leave the subject alone.
Hubby is a gun owning, high school teacher and has taken weapons off kids before...it's rare so calm down. But he saw the video and thought it was extremely risky shooting with all those other kids around. I'm kind of surprised myself. I've seen cops talk people down and take people down and surprised this wasn't done here.
Then stop assuming and guessing and when the officer should or shouldn't shoot. You have absolutely no clue what really did or didn't happen. Just leave the subject alone.
Pointing out that it is a complex and difficult situation in the face of a whole lot of people who claim it was clearly a good shoot is in some way wrong?
You post would indicate that you quite completely lack understanding of internet forums.
Hubby is a gun owning, high school teacher and has taken weapons off kids before...it's rare so calm down. But he saw the video and thought it was extremely risky shooting with all those other kids around. I'm kind of surprised myself. I've seen cops talk people down and take people down and surprised this wasn't done here.
As has been said many times before, had the other kids put their damn phones away and left the area as they were repeatedly asked to do then the kid might have been able to be talked down. This kid was by all apperances highly agitated and within striking range of several bystanders. Does the cop wait and see if he slashes some other kid possibly killing him? Would everyone then be demanding he be fired and a million dollar settlement because he didn't act fast enough?
So, the cop waited until looky-loo's and the subject shifted around enough so he had an empty enough backstop (space behind the kid) and took the shot. He could/should have shot center mass (in the chest) with at least 2 shots and permanently dropped the kid right then and there as they are trained to do but he didn't, I'm guessing showing restraint BECAUSE it was a kid.
Until your husband trains in active shooter/violent subject situations AND has gone through the situation himself his opinion of what happened means about as much as any other layman.
Pointing out that it is a complex and difficult situation in the face of a whole lot of people who claim it was clearly a good shoot is in some way wrong?
You post would indicate that you quite completely lack understanding of internet forums.
You're not just "pointing out that it is a complex and difficult situation." You've already distilled that "complex and difficult situation" down to a 5 million dollar settlement in favor or the kid. When it comes to making a value judgment of the situation, it doesn't get more clear-cut than putting a specific dollar value on it.
Pointing out that it is a complex and difficult situation in the face of a whole lot of people who claim it was clearly a good shoot is in some way wrong?
You post would indicate that you quite completely lack understanding of internet forums.
Your last sentence amuses me. What exactly is it that I do not understand about internet forums? Please enlighten me.
As has been said many times before, had the other kids put their damn phones away and left the area as they were repeatedly asked to do then the kid might have been able to be talked down. This kid was by all apperances highly agitated and within striking range of several bystanders. Does the cop wait and see if he slashes some other kid possibly killing him? Would everyone then be demanding he be fired and a million dollar settlement because he didn't act fast enough?
So, the cop waited until looky-loo's and the subject shifted around enough so he had an empty enough backstop (space behind the kid) and took the shot. He could/should have shot center mass (in the chest) with at least 2 shots and permanently dropped the kid right then and there as they are trained to do but he didn't, I'm guessing showing restraint BECAUSE it was a kid.
Until your husband trains in active shooter/violent subject situations AND has gone through the situation himself his opinion of what happened means about as much as any other layman.
Thanks for your comments.
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