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Old 12-13-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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Hmmm, so I guess criminals should not be called that since they are after all "human beings".

I assume the same applies to KKK/Nazi/Black Panther members, thus you cannot call them racists, because they are humans.
Why do I get the feeling this is a one way street governed by PC, not rational thought or consistent standards.

If I were a student, I'd likely reply that yes, illegal immigrants does not accurately describe those human beings.
Instead their proper description is illegal aliens.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:23 PM
 
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I sympathize with the plight of the illegal alien in the sense that I know it's tough to leave your homeland in search of work but you enter into a world of criminality doing so. I mean to work, eat and live in the US as an illegal alien you have to engage in some sort of fraud, whether it's identity theft or make a deal with an employer to hire you under the table. Either way it's engaging in a fraudulent transaction.

Why are liberals defending the perpetuation of a permanent underclass of people? You'd think they'd want a solution that doesn't just coddle them or make light of the situation.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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I sympathize with the plight of the illegal alien in the sense that I know it's tough to leave your homeland in search of work but you enter into a world of criminality doing so. I mean to work, eat and live in the US as an illegal alien you have to engage in some sort of fraud, whether it's identity theft or make a deal with an employer to hire you under the table. Either way it's engaging in a fraudulent transaction.

Why are liberals defending the perpetuation of a permanent underclass of people? You'd think they'd want a solution that doesn't just coddle them or make light of the situation.
Good point.
I don't get the liberal fascination with coddling criminals.

We see liberals doing something similar with poorer minorities that are born here or native.

It's always government and taxpayer money that is the answer.

X group is not able to take care of themselves so they need the government to take care them and taxpayers need to pay X amount per year.

Liberals don't value the individual.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:39 PM
 
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I think that "law breaking alien" sounds worse than "illegal immigrant", but I suppose that her students should oblige her highness's wishes and use the former phrase.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:47 PM
 
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Good point.
I don't get the liberal fascination with coddling criminals.

We see liberals doing something similar with poorer minorities that are born here or native.

It's always government and taxpayer money that is the answer.

X group is not able to take care of themselves so they need the government to take care them and taxpayers need to pay X amount per year.

Liberals don't value the individual.
I think their only solution is amnesty. They honestly just do not like our immigration laws and believe we should be open borders.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Isn't that just a PC term to sugarcoat the issue that they're in the country illegally? I mean all these PC terms seem rather demeaning rather than trying to bring dignity.
Of course it's "PC." That particular "America, the Frontier, and the New West" course was offered by USC's "Department of American Studies and Ethnicity."
https://classes.usc.edu/term-20163/classes/amst/

Here's a link to a course syllabus from a few years ago when it was taught by John Carlos Rowe...
http://web-app.usc.edu/soc/syllabus/20123/10408.pdf

According to the "College Fix," Alicia Chavez assigned following books to her students:
  • Robert O. Self, American Babylon: Race and the Struggle for Postwar Oakland
  • Phoebe S. Kropp, California Vieja: Culture and Memory in a Modern American Place
  • Sherman Alexie, The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven
  • Linda Gordon, The Great Arizona Orphan Abduction
  • Judy Yung, Unbound Feet: A Social History of Chinese Women in San Francisco
  • Luis Alberto Urrea, The Devil’s Highway: A True Story
And, the final exam essay question was reported to be...
Historically, the North American West has been imagined as a geography of leisure, opportunity, entertainment, and wealth, and also as a place where people of color could live outside of the structures of inequality. However, by 1992, Los Angeles became associated with severe racial and class conflict. How would you characterize the nature of lived experience in the West by the late 19th through the early 21st century? Is it a region that has maintained long-held hierarchies of inequality that continue to circumscribe people’s lives? Is it a region that has opened new opportunities for persons or communities that could not find them in other places?
In terms of the final exam, it appears that the students might have had more to worry about than not using the term "illegal immigrant."
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Her class, her rules...
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:51 PM
 
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His class, his rules...
Her class. Don't be sexist.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Her class. Don't be sexist.
OK, I fixed it. I typed a comment before reading the link...
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:54 PM
 
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We joke about this but the changing of the language is being codified into law and the popular discourse. Political correctness may be here to stay and it could get as bad as it is in Europe and Canada where any notion to the contrary might be misconstrued as hate speech.
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