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Old 12-20-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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The reason you can say that is because as a liberal you cannot separate policy from person.


the right vigorously opposed Obama's policies. and because the left cannot separate policy from person, liberals said it was because Obama was black.


Now we see liberals opposing TheDonald. what are they opposing? his proposal of cutting corporate tax rate to 15%? nope. Its because TheDonald is not qualified to be president. things like tax policy are just proof that he is personally not qualified to be president.




Person and Policy are not the same. Would to God liberals would get real and focus on policy. I would love to just stand toe to toe and debate the policy. But your side wont do that. you refuse. you have attached your morality to your political position and therefore cannot find the mental energy to separate ones humanity from their political views.
Oh yes, indeed.


Because Trump was ALL ABOUT policy.


When the man gets a coherent policy on ANYTHING (besides tax cuts for the wealthy) - you get back to us and we'll talk.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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What made it ok for the right to pizz and moan, and basically carry on with the dignity of boozed-up teenagers for the past 8 years? But that was just "voicing their opinions" right? Do as I say, not as I do
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It's a repeat of the last 8 years. Republicans did the exact same thing.

Welcome to politics.

Only difference is it's not just people from America who are concerned.
Are you two incapable of reading?

Try it again:

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Every day the MSNBC and main street media continue to....
No, the main stream media did NOT attack Obama for 8 years.
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Old 12-20-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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Oh yes, indeed.


Because Trump was ALL ABOUT policy.


When the man gets a coherent policy on ANYTHING (besides tax cuts for the wealthy) - you get back to us and we'll talk.
in fact he was.
illegal immigration
over taxation/regulation of business
calling Islamic terrorists .... Islamic terrorists
blocking companies from moving manufacturing overseas by placing tariffs on offshored production being brought back onshore for sale
creating path for repatriation of foreign earned money without confiscatory taxation
repeal and replace Obamacare
expanding maternity leave
respecting first amendment religious freedom
rebuilding American infrastructure and paying for it instead of borrowing money to do so.








all of these things have been discussed by Mr. Trump at length.
MR. Obama also had quite a list of policy issues he was focused on. most of them opposed by the right. POLICY. not person.
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Old 12-20-2016, 12:52 PM
 
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The divide between rural and urban populations is going to increase dramatically over the next 20 years. As these cities become more and more ethnic, there will be more and more white flight.
Most likely, in addition to the self-sorting and segregating that continues.
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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in fact he was.
illegal immigration
over taxation/regulation of business
calling Islamic terrorists .... Islamic terrorists
blocking companies from moving manufacturing overseas by placing tariffs on offshored production being brought back onshore for sale
creating path for repatriation of foreign earned money without confiscatory taxation
repeal and replace Obamacare
expanding maternity leave
respecting first amendment religious freedom
rebuilding American infrastructure and paying for it instead of borrowing money to do so.








all of these things have been discussed by Mr. Trump at length.
MR. Obama also had quite a list of policy issues he was focused on. most of them opposed by the right. POLICY. not person.
All emotion based. We know that he is waffling on illegal immigration; now only wanting to deport criminals - which we already do.

I don't give two plug nicks what you call islamic terrorists - those are NOT magic words. Never were.

Tariffs are a really bad idea for us.

Repeal and replace Obamacare is also emotion based. We know he is backing off that like crazy. BECAUSE, he's not nothing to replace it with.

Ok. I'm tired of arguing his CAMPAIGN PROMISES - which are not policy.
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Every day the MSNBC and main street media continue to find negative topics on the newly elected presidential winner. The same group that wouldn't speak a negative word while Hillary's corrupt supposedly non- profit was funding Chelsea's wedding, not a peep from the media. It's good that everyone keeps talking about the President elect more than the current occupant on 1600 Penn. Ave.

So why do democrats complain so much? Doesn't that get depressing after a while? Can democrats find any silver linings or is always the guy who sells typewriters on the Simpsons?
Well after 8 years of nonstop whine from the Cons I would thinks you believe it is acceptable behavior, the answer is looking at you in the mirror.
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:53 PM
 
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All emotion based. We know that he is waffling on illegal immigration; now only wanting to deport criminals - which we already do.

I don't give two plug nicks what you call islamic terrorists - those are NOT magic words. Never were.

Tariffs are a really bad idea for us.

Repeal and replace Obamacare is also emotion based. We know he is backing off that like crazy. BECAUSE, he's not nothing to replace it with.

Ok. I'm tired of arguing his CAMPAIGN PROMISES - which are not policy.

ACA is going away, deal with it. It most likely had just a year left until, when one more major insurer fled, it was a meaningless, empty website.

As for illegals, simply enforcing the law would be a welcome relief. You can forget your phony pathways for those who committed a crime simply by crossing the border.


Tariffs will not be needed, as we have plenty of Carrier's owned by corps doing DOD business, who want to keep that business. Business 101-if you want something, you best provide something. Carrier stayed due to billions at stake for UTC.


As for terrorists, I suspect unlike the last 8 years, the response will be meaningful, and 65,000 unvettable Syrians need not apply.


1 month to go. Hopefully, until then, local authorities keep jihadists at bay. Then we get someone who will treat the enemy as they deserve to be treated.
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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They sound like sore losers. Hillary was a terrible candidate. Get over it and move on.

They need to do two things...
1) Begin to focus on 2018. All House spots are open and 33 States are having elections for Senate spots.
2) Try to build a coalition with moderate Republicans.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:36 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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They sound like sore losers. Hillary was a terrible candidate. Get over it and move on.

They need to do two things...
1) Begin to focus on 2018. All House spots are open and 33 States are having elections for Senate spots.
2) Try to build a coalition with moderate Republicans.
All house seats are open every 2 years, not just 2018. Maybe this is to help confused democrats - good suggestion.
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Old 12-20-2016, 08:38 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Let em complain. I think it is actually funny with the bs they come up with. Free entertainment.
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