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Old 12-21-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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But... stick with me here...

What if a person finds that they need to live elsewhere, outside the US, one day?

It isn't bad to know more than one language. That's pretty much all I have to say on the subject. I cannot see a single, solitary, negative thing about speaking multiple languages.

People from the US are just about the only people who travel abroad and get pissed off when nobody speaks English. How self-absorbed can many of us be?

I mean, I hope they speak English when I'm in a country where I don't speak the language or do not speak it well, but EXPECT it? Nope.

I cannot stick with you because you are throwing multiple, unrelated issues around. The article spoke of people losing their knowledge of Spanish as their generations progressed in America.


You are talking about language education, something wholly different and not the subject of the article and the OP.

You need to start another thread!

And btw- I myself speak another language and have lived abroad.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:45 AM
 
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I'm so glad I now live in a place where I never EVER hear Spanish spoken.

I grew up in Berks County, Pennsylvania. Where we used to have a unique Pennsylvania Dutch culture and hear Pennsylvania Dutch (a German dialect) spoken everywhere. You now hear nothing but Spanish (ESPECIALLY READING).

A couple of places I interviewed for jobs, when I lived in adjoining Lehigh County, I was asked if I was "bilingual". I answered, yes. I can speak and understand Pennsylvania Dutch (German) pretty well, because I grew up with it. Didn't count. Today, "bilingual" automatically and ONLY means can you speak Spanish.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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I know. Why is being fluent in more than one language EVER a negative???

Its not. The problem is monolingual Spanish speakers in a non Spanish speaking country.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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I'm so glad I now live in a place where I never EVER hear Spanish spoken.

I grew up in Berks County, Pennsylvania. Where we used to have a unique Pennsylvania Dutch culture and hear Pennsylvania Dutch (a German dialect) spoken everywhere. You now hear nothing but Spanish (ESPECIALLY READING).

A couple of places I interviewed for jobs, when I lived in adjoining Lehigh County, I was asked if I was "bilingual". I answered, yes. I can speak and understand Pennsylvania Dutch (German) pretty well, because I grew up with it. Didn't count. Today, "bilingual" automatically and ONLY means can you speak Spanish.
I was told by a county government supervisor at an internship that had I not been in grad school, she would have hired me on the spot... IF I also spoke Spanish.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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]I'm so glad I now live in a place where I never EVER hear Spanish spoken.[/b]

I grew up in Berks County, Pennsylvania. Where we used to have a unique Pennsylvania Dutch culture and hear Pennsylvania Dutch (a German dialect) spoken everywhere. You now hear nothing but Spanish (ESPECIALLY READING).

A couple of places I interviewed for jobs, when I lived in adjoining Lehigh County, I was asked if I was "bilingual". I answered, yes. I can speak and understand Pennsylvania Dutch (German) pretty well, because I grew up with it. Didn't count. Today, "bilingual" automatically and ONLY means can you speak Spanish.

You moved to Alaska? because from what I remember the area around Lancaster had many meat plants and there was a lot of Hispanic speakers living in there. Got to remember who hired them-- and will continue to do so-- I expect a good chunk of PA is Hispanic

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Old 12-21-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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I cannot stick with you because you are throwing multiple, unrelated issues around. The article spoke of people losing their knowledge of Spanish as their generations progressed in America.


You are talking about language education, something wholly different and not the subject of the article and the OP.

You need to start another thread!

And btw- I myself speak another language and have lived abroad.

Did they print out your native language specifically just for you when you lived abroad?

Its not that I care really. I don't mind learning other languages and English does get the benefit of being an international language. I recently crapped out English in Central America, albeit with a little Spanish when they could not speak English. It kind of tough to keep up with Spanish when I have been busy with Russian and German.

However this is what people are talking about. I do expect the tourist industry and airports should be rather flexible for their own good. However this is the purview of the industry. Not sure why English speakers for example need to compete for jobs while being taxed to support Spanish speakers and then call it "el cheapo labor". Its cheap subsidized labor. That's the issue.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:58 AM
 
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Its not. The problem is monolingual Spanish speakers in a non Spanish speaking country.

+ 1

Notice that Redzin defends Hispanics for the same thing he chides Americans for doing?
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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Did they print out your native language specifically just for you when you lived abroad?

Its not that I care really. I don't mind learning other languages and English does get the benefit of being an international language. I recently crapped out English in Central America, albeit with a little Spanish when they could not speak English. It kind of tough to keep up with Spanish when I have been busy with Russian and German.

However this is what people are talking about. I do expect the tourist industry and airports should be rather flexible for their own good. However this is the purview of the industry. Not sure why English speakers for example need to compete for jobs while being taxed to support Spanish speakers and then call it "el cheapo labor". Its cheap subsidized labor. That's the issue.

No, I studied in Germany and worked my tail off to learn the language. And I refused to speak English with the Germans no matter how hard they tried.

But again, this is not the subject of the OP and the attached link.
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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The irony in this post is delicious.
Lol
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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You have an unhealthy obsession with Hispanics. The "we spake Aynglish!" crowd earns me money by being bilingual.

That's because of continued illegal immigration from south of our border and too much legal immigration from the same group who expects to be catered to in Spanish even though they know English. You brag about being bi-lingual because it earns "you" money even though it's because of the above and mono-lingual English speakers get discriminated against in hiring practices.
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