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Old 12-21-2016, 07:26 AM
 
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We owe it to our history to save Spanish from going the way of German, Italian and Polish.

Is America losing Español?: Column

I've been thinking about how the "Hispanic wave" in the US has peaked and, it's showing signs of dropping back and fast.

I'm guessing the multicultural kind are really scared about it. Oh well.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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We owe it to our history to save Spanish from going the way of German, Italian and Polish.

Is America losing Español?: Column

I've been thinking about how the "Hispanic wave" in the US has peaked and, it's showing signs of dropping back and fast.

I'm guessing the multicultural kind are really scared about it. Oh well.

What's the reason for preserving Spanish above other foreign languages? We are an English speaking nation. Reading the article was laughable. The author used the typical pro-illegal demonizing words against law abiding citizens and Trump such as xenophobia and claims of him slurring all Mexicans. He also made jokes about the wall. It is obvious that this author has an agenda.

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Old 12-21-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Stupid article.

No descendants of any immigrant group are still speaking the (non-English) language of their ancestors unless they take it upon themselves. That is a human dynamic that is hardly unique to the USA.

American of all political stripes take leave of their senses when it comes to foreign languages.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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No descendants of any immigrant group are still speaking the (non-English) language of their ancestors unless they take it upon themselves. That is a human dynamic that is hardly unique to the USA.

American of all political stripes take leave of their senses when it comes to foreign languages.
Just taking my mother's side, both of my grandparents came over from Denmark. I don't remember my grandfather ever speaking a word of English, while my grandmother had about a third-grade education (but did speak some English). My mother earned a Master's degree in US History and later an MBA, and I have multiple degrees. I can just imagine how we all would have wound up had we tried to preserve our heritage and language instead of becoming Americans.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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You have an unhealthy obsession with Hispanics. The "we spake Aynglish!" crowd earns me money by being bilingual.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: My House
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You have an unhealthy obsession with Hispanics. The "we spake Aynglish!" crowd earns me money by being bilingual.
I know. Why is being fluent in more than one language EVER a negative???
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: My House
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Just taking my mother's side, both of my grandparents came over from Denmark. I don't remember my grandfather ever speaking a word of English, while my grandmother had about a third-grade education (but did speak some English). My mother earned a Master's degree in US History and later an MBA, and I have multiple degrees. I can just imagine how we all would have wound up had we tried to preserve our heritage and language instead of becoming Americans.
I think it's great when people don't give up their native language and still teach it to their kids. Babies are very good at picking up languages. Do it early and we'd have bilingual people all over the place.

Other countries embrace knowing more than one language. Why is this seen as a bad thing in the US?

We don't even have an official language here. I think that is a good thing, btw.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Starts out ..
"And yes, my question about saving Spanish may seem especially daft now, as America’s deranged politics pit hysterical Trumpian xenophobia, with its fear of being overrun by foreigners and their languages, against liberal triumphalism about growing diversity."

Ok Barf !
Enforcing our immigration laws is NOT xenophobic !
Trump has stated that immigration is good , LEGAL immigration . This author is either lying or is ignorant.

It's articles like this that are part of the problem . Too many people don't do their research and they just listen to soundbytes.

I live in Los Angeles in my neighborhood you hear Spanish spoken much more than English .

You go to Miami you can't even speak English . They know English but they act like they don't.
Of course in the very touristy areas it will be different .
Spanish disappearing is nonsense .

Popularity of languages change . In New York at one point Italian was spoken a lot more than it is now . Should there have been a conscious effort to "Save" the Italian language ?
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Just taking my mother's side, both of my grandparents came over from Denmark. I don't remember my grandfather ever speaking a word of English, while my grandmother had about a third-grade education (but did speak some English). My mother earned a Master's degree in US History and later an MBA, and I have multiple degrees. I can just imagine how we all would have wound
up had we tried to preserve our heritage and language instead of becoming Americans.

Americans are not depicted by their language- and heritage? Sorry you lost yours- it's sad -
We are intelligent enough to be both- or even more than that- for instance- a marriage with an Italian and a Jewish person- or an African and a Hispanic or a Hindu all born here!!!

What is wrong with people today? this obtuse thinking-is sick-- I hope the next generation is smart and tolerant enough and wipes this one out-completely-
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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I think it's great when people don't give up their native language and still teach it to their kids. Babies are very good at picking up languages. Do it early and we'd have bilingual people all over the place.

Other countries embrace knowing more than one language. Why is this seen as a bad thing in the US?

We don't even have an official language here. I think that is a good thing, btw.
No gripe with people speaking both to their children, but as the article correctly noted, that dynamic dies out by the third generation. Explains why the descendants of Chinese rail workers and Swedish farmers don't speak a lick of either.

Other countries embrace knowing more than one language either because the people already speak more than one (Canada, Switzerland, Spain) or because they are small countries near large ones and thus need to so as to survive (Netherlands, Denmark, Hungary).

We do not have an official language because English is the de facto language of the US and most people have little interest in balkanizing.
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