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Old 12-26-2016, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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This is of course simply another version of the RW myth. They know all about the LW in their fantasies.

It of course has little real truth. The NIMBY population for instance is politically varied. Having fought a couple of serious NIMBY wars successfully I can tell you the proponents ranged from wild eyed Liberals to Libertarians to very conservative Mormons. The only thing they shared in common was the neighborhood which they defended.

But the RW will continue believing its absurd views. Some sort of RW syndrome.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:06 PM
 
Location: *
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Alot of it has to do with the rise of the "soft male" and the hipster and metrosexual phenomenon, they seem to dominate most blue metros.The media seems to be dominated by these soft white males, I was coming home the other day after the german truck terror attack and npr had one of the hosts in his timid and sensitive npr voice talking to a muslim woman in america who felt persecuted and stared at for wearing full body hijab covering while shopping at target???
Do you honestly think folks care if the person that solves the problem is a 'soft male' hipster metrosexual or a macho leather wearing (?) truck driving straight shooting ... on & on with the ridiculousness. Solve the problem, dammitt, call it 'manning up' or whatever other ridiculousness you feel like. Deliver.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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The purpose of this is?
I guess the OP wants truckers to fall asleep from being unregulated and overworked and drink dirty water. They want uneducated morons who can't add 2 and 2 without a calulator. Yep Good Old GOP
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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OP, the question should be why do YOU and some others make such silly generalizations?
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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I think social media is a good thing in some regards but it seems like the San Francisco and Los Angeles liberals think that bandwidth and an application makes the world around.

Yet, the liberals absolutely hate trades, manufacturing and construction workers.

The liberals do all they can to bring out the NIMBY's, environmentalists and ridiculous housing codes into the equation to the construction industry.

The liberals absolutely hate hard workers who make everyday products. They act like hundreds of people keeping their jobs with Carrier making a living and keeping Americans cool in the summer is in awful thing.

The liberals also want to do all they can to punish the coal workers, oil workers and natural gas workers with their ridiculous environmental regulations and red-tape.

The liberals punishment of oil, natural gas and coal workers has more to do punishing those who didn't spend 8 years of being indoctrinated by crap at liberal arts colleges. They look down on those who actually keep America running with coal, oil and natural gas as opposed to those who sit in classrooms, go into debt and then make a living by consulting.

The liberals also want to burden America's over the road truck drivers with lots of regulations, despite the fact that many liberals sit inside their office suites all-day on Amazon ordering specialty products that they insist is delivered the next day or they have a liberal tantrum.
I'm a left leaner and I honestly don't hate trade workers, just as long as they're doing jobs machines can't do.

Construction workers will always be needed. Housing is in huge demand with a growing population and housing prices are out of control.

Oil is still very much needed, but will start to get pricier as it becomes harder and more complicated to extract.

Coal, though, is truly a dying industry. One thing I'm looking forward to is the cheaper availability of solar panels that will put that industry out for good. It will happen.

Truck drivers? They will be automated out, I can guarantee it. The truck drivers association (or whatever they're called) will fight it tooth and nail, but will lose in the long term. Europe is already moving towards automated vehicles.
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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So you want to live in a country where the water is poisoned by unregulated factories? Where you can't breathe the air without risking cancer?

Really?
Who is voting for this?


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The water issue is, literally, a 'third world' problem. A problem that is, apparently, beyond the powers of our allegedly first world Country to resolve in a timely manner.
The real problem is the Democrats that were voted in, are ignoring their city needs. Seems things don't get fixed if Dems are in charge, they're not use to fixing stuff. Can't blame America or any state for bad water when those in charge have known and never forgot to cash their own paycheck, while children were drinking poison. My question what parent would continue giving their child polluted water......... I lived in an area that had questionable water, times money was short, but I made sure my kids didn't drink school water.

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Old 12-26-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Canada
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This is of course simply another version of the RW myth. They know all about the LW in their fantasies.

It of course has little real truth. The NIMBY population for instance is politically varied. Having fought a couple of serious NIMBY wars successfully I can tell you the proponents ranged from wild eyed Liberals to Libertarians to very conservative Mormons. The only thing they shared in common was the neighborhood which they defended.

But the RW will continue believing its absurd views. Some sort of RW syndrome.
I happen to agree with this notion! Why? because in your post you point to that "Syndrome" Leftists have no issue with the "WORKER" in any of the Industry listed..BUT the Corporate greed that use those workers to fill their buckets of PROFITS! Then, when shown their particular industry actually affects directly those workers..THEY go on an offensive to blame and spend multi-millions to PROVE or disprove accusations.!

Meanwhile, Government continues to give bailouts/perks to many of this industries..BUT that "Trickle-down Affect" Never seems to find the pockets of the WORKERS!! Why is that? I ask. Trolling internet/Twitter/Facebook will not convince informed citizens. Lobbyists will fork over mullions to lawmakers on all levels to make sure laws cover their collective A$$'s!

The claim LEFT somehow blames the workers on it's face is ridiculous... The worker's are trying to make a living to just live..BUT the Corporate structure only considers the "Bottomline" ..The heck with how that affects the worker/employee!

Just to be clear tho..The Investor makes a pittance compared to the multi-million dollars of "Bonus's Corporate Executives get annually!! Trying to deflect away from Corporate greed is just unadulterated BS!

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Old 12-26-2016, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Hard to say why. Maybe they have no respect for tradition or the traditional.
They view those industries as being old fashioned and should be done any with.

It shows a lot of ignorance.

Most of silicon valley seems to be liberal. Peter Thiel is one of the few that is not it seems.
Even though he is very successful and respected in the tech industry he was attacked pretty harshly for his political views.

Thiel is gay and he was attacked by the gay left. It's interesting because the gay population is more financially secure, at least according to the liberal HuffPost.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2249677.html

"“Now, not everyone is hurting,” Thiel explained. “In the wealthy suburbs that are in Washington, DC, people are doing just fine. Where I work in Silicon Valley, people are doing just great. But most Americans don’t live by the beltway, or the San Francisco bay. Most Americans haven’t been part of that prosperity. It shouldn’t be surprising to see people vote for Bernie Sanders, or for Donald Trump, who is the only outsider left in the race.”

After Liberals Attacked Billionaire Peter Thiel - He Took the Fight to Them! | TellMeNow
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Old 12-26-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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I think social media is a good thing in some regards but it seems like the San Francisco and Los Angeles liberals think that bandwidth and an application makes the world around.

Yet, the liberals absolutely hate trades, manufacturing and construction workers.
They do?
Liberals tend to be pro-union.... Eg, trades, manufacturing, and construction as well as public sector. I'm more of a capitalist than I am a conservative or a liberal myself.
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The liberals do all they can to bring out the NIMBY's, environmentalists and ridiculous housing codes into the equation to the construction industry.
Not true at all. Suburban areas have many ridiculous housing codes as well and often are republican leaning. Liberals are often more environmentally conscientious but often hypocritically. Prius in front of a 4,000 square foot house while they vacation twice a year 8,000 miles away. I'm more moderate on that. I'm for certain things like pollution standards but not broad things like CAFE standards. I'm old enough to remember what Los Angeles looked like in the late '80s vaguely compared with today. Big fan emissions standards on cars and power plants. Much less of a big fan in CAFE standards are spending huge amounts of federal money on public transportation. Also not a big fan of spending huge amounts of federal money on freeways either. Part of the freeway system is interregional and falls within the scope of the federal government. Much of it is also not. Expanding a four-lane freeway to ten lanes to get commuters living in suburbs to their jobs downtown is a local issue that should be funded locally.

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The liberals absolutely hate hard workers who make everyday products. They act like hundreds of people keeping their jobs with Carrier making a living and keeping Americans cool in the summer is in awful thing.
Uh, no. I'm a capitalist though. I hate socialism and bailing out failed industries. If that's Carrier, then I hate Carrier. If allowing a failed business to fail means hardworking Americans lose their jobs, that's unfortunate. It's not as unfortunate as socialism, however.

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The liberals also want to do all they can to punish the coal workers, oil workers and natural gas workers with their ridiculous environmental regulations and red-tape.
Yeah, environmental protections. To the extent regulations help prevent Deepwater Horizon or Aliso Canyon from happening and punish coal workers, oil workers, and natural gas workers I'm absolutely for them. The efficacy of said regulations, however, is questionable.

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The liberals punishment of oil, natural gas and coal workers has more to do punishing those who didn't spend 8 years of being indoctrinated by crap at liberal arts colleges. They look down on those who actually keep America running with coal, oil and natural gas as opposed to those who sit in classrooms, go into debt and then make a living by consulting.

The liberals also want to burden America's over the road truck drivers with lots of regulations, despite the fact that many liberals sit inside their office suites all-day on Amazon ordering specialty products that they insist is delivered the next day or they have a liberal tantrum.
You think the regulator burden is just on truck drivers and coal miners? That's pretty funny. I have to deal with California Civil Codes, Civil Procedures, portions of Government Code, Evidence Code, Family Code, Labor Code, Penal Code on pretty much a daily basis. Health and Safety, Financial, and Insurance Code not infrequently. Then there's all the Federal codes and regulations I have to adhere with, mostly HIPPA and SEC.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:01 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I think social media is a good thing in some regards but it seems like the San Francisco and Los Angeles liberals think that bandwidth and an application makes the world around.

Yet, the liberals absolutely hate trades, manufacturing and construction workers.

The liberals do all they can to bring out the NIMBY's, environmentalists and ridiculous housing codes into the equation to the construction industry.

The liberals absolutely hate hard workers who make everyday products. They act like hundreds of people keeping their jobs with Carrier making a living and keeping Americans cool in the summer is in awful thing.

The liberals also want to do all they can to punish the coal workers, oil workers and natural gas workers with their ridiculous environmental regulations and red-tape.

The liberals punishment of oil, natural gas and coal workers has more to do punishing those who didn't spend 8 years of being indoctrinated by crap at liberal arts colleges. They look down on those who actually keep America running with coal, oil and natural gas as opposed to those who sit in classrooms, go into debt and then make a living by consulting.

The liberals also want to burden America's over the road truck drivers with lots of regulations, despite the fact that many liberals sit inside their office suites all-day on Amazon ordering specialty products that they insist is delivered the next day or they have a liberal tantrum.
Bro, if you have a beef with housing codes in LA or the Bay Area, make your topic about that. To make it about "liberals" is nonsense. First of all, the thing about FB & Twitter is more of a generational thing, so you're talking mainly about young people in terms of "worshipping". And plenty of conservative and apolitical and middle-of-the-road kids worship those, too. It has nothing to do with politics. I know Bible-thumping conservative grannies who love FB, while none of the liberals I know in the Gen X & Boomer gens have any interest in it.

So really, your generalizations are way off. As sweeping generalizations tend to be, anyway, but these are just out in fantasy-land. Also, plenty of construction workers in my state, and quite a few friends who are contractors and construction workers in other states, are liberals. I don't see how someone's choice of trade or profession is related to politics; that's a strange connection to make. And btw, some construction workers do have college degrees, others don't. So what?

Some of the regulations for truck drivers are to keep them and other people on the roads safe. If you have a beef re: specific regulations, say so, so we can discuss those. I'm sure you have some valid points in there somewhere, but you're speaking so generally, we don't know what your complaint is, exactly. Also fyi, there are liberals who hate regulations and housing codes, too. So, whatever. Happy New Year.

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