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Old 12-27-2016, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by coldwine View Post
Let's assume the heart of this story is true.

It would certainly be a tremendous kick to the teeth of would-be presidents-elect who believe they can conduct policy in Twitter, would it not?
LOL, never thought of that, explains some of the opposition.
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Old 12-27-2016, 10:35 PM
 
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Sorry but that salute belongs to a segment of the trump supporters, maybe they can come up with something better.
>>>> Sorry, if the swastika fits, wear it. That distinction goes to a segment of Obama supporters blindly defending him and others who knowingly chafe at the idea of freedom and a government kept in check.
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Old 12-27-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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>>>> Sorry, if the swastika fits, wear it. That distinction goes to a segment of Obama supporters blindly defending him and others who knowingly chafe at the idea of freedom and a government kept in check.
Nope the Swastika and the salute belong with the trump supporters that openly declare who and what they are, good little Nationalists. Clue, trump will do nothing about the new law other than abuse it for his own ends.
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Old 12-28-2016, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Sounds like something right out of Orwell's "1984", but on the other hand, people have been going on about the NDAA for years,,,,
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Old 12-28-2016, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Easy to look that way when you know it is going to pass. Thought you would know that. FYI, it has nothing to do with freedom of speech, did you miss what the bill actually means or you just jumping on another bandwagon?
FYI It has everything to do with Freedom of Speech. Did you actually read the bill or did you believe something someone said again without actually doing the legwork yourself? Rhetorical you didn't research, just because someone said.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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MEDIA REMAINS SILENT AS OBAMA SIGNS ANTI-PROPAGANDA BILL THAT HARMS PRESS FREEDOM
Media Remains Silent As Obama Signs Anti-Propaganda Bill That Harms Press Freedom – Collective Evolution

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Blanketed beneath the buzz of Christmas, U.S. President Barack Obama quietly signed the 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) into law the Friday before the holiday. Within the PDF that reveals an authorization of more than $600 billion in military spending for 2017, there lies a provision that allows for a national Anti-Propaganda Center that could hinder the freedom of press.

Today, I have signed into law S. 2943, the “National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017.” This Act authorizes fiscal year 2017 appropriations principally for the Department of Defense and for Department of Energy national security programs, provides vital benefits for military personnel and their families, and includes authorities to facilitate ongoing operations around the globe. It continues many critical authorizations necessary to ensure that we are able to sustain our momentum in countering the threat posed by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and to reassure our European allies, as well as many new authorizations that, among other things, provide the Departments of Defense and Energy more flexibility in countering cyber-attacks and our adversaries’ use of unmanned aerial vehicles.

The Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act of 2016 puts in legal practice a U.S. Ministry of Truth. Besides reporting on the passage of the bill, the corporate mainstream media has been quiet on its details. One can only speculate that, such ins and outs don’t fit their agenda to keep America out of the loop regarding the Information War their own government has put in place.

Zero Hedge reported:

U.S. Senators Rob Portman (R-OH) and Chris Murphy (D-CT) today announced that their Countering Disinformation and Propaganda Act – legislation designed to help American allies counter foreign government propaganda from Russia, China, and other nations – has been signed into law as part of the FY 2017 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Conference Report. The bipartisan bill, which was introduced by Senators Portman and Murphy in March, will improve the ability of the United States to counter foreign propaganda and disinformation from our enemies by establishing an interagency center housed at the State Department to coordinate and synchronize counter-propaganda efforts throughout the U.S. government. To support these efforts, the bill also creates a grant program for NGOs, think tanks, civil society and other experts outside government who are engaged in counter-propaganda related work. This will better leverage existing expertise and empower our allies overseas to defend themselves from foreign manipulation. It will also help foster a free and vibrant press and civil society overseas, which is critical to ensuring our allies have access to truthful information and inoculating people against foreign propaganda campaigns.
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Old 01-15-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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Don't kid yourself. All that is happening with the incoming administration is the introduction of new alligators who were bred in the same swamp as the old alligators.

Love the usual lies of the OP's tread title. A bill, written by a Republican, voted in by a Republican Congress, is all Obama's doing. What are you guys going to do when all three pieces of that equation are held by the GOP? Who are you going to blame then?
Still trying to cover Obama and give the reach around too. Pathetic.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:22 PM
 
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Default Does Boss Trump fulfilling Trade promises create fear for liberals who will lose support as Trump succeeds ?

Does Boss Trump fulfilling Trade promises create fear for liberals all around the world who will lose support as Trump succeeds ?

Yes, it sure looks like it. A successful Trump administration scares the hell out of them because they can't stop it.

Donald Trump Promises Post-Brexit Britain a ‘Fair’ Trade Deal

Donald Trump: I

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...-United-States

Trump said that he planned to make Britain's departure from the European Union "a great thing" and that he would meet with British Prime Minister Theresa May shortly after he is sworn in Friday.

Obama threatened Britain and would have put them at the back of the line on trade. Trump is putting them at the front of the line. First new trade deal he is going to work on will be with the UK.
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Old 01-15-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Props to you for your sourcing. It is indeed a progressive website.

However: "foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining United States national security interests."

It is, not to my cursory understanding, aimed at silencing any dissent from within our borders, just to combat foreign influence in our media, such as shaping public opinion thru propaganda.

I mean, we already have FOX News for that. And this law won't affect them (sadly)

Do you honestly not comprehend the ramifications of this? The administration can silence any person or website they deem is a result of Russian interference, Chinese hacking, propaganda, etc. We already know that any information they don't want disclosed, they always call fake news.

Do you want a country where we cannot even go online to determine what the truth is since we cannot get it from media sources?

They will squelch any discussion they don't like. That's giving them way too much control.
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Old 01-16-2017, 10:45 AM
 
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Do you honestly not comprehend the ramifications of this? The administration can silence any person or website they deem is a result of Russian interference, Chinese hacking, propaganda, etc. We already know that any information they don't want disclosed, they always call fake news.

Do you want a country where we cannot even go online to determine what the truth is since we cannot get it from media sources?

They will squelch any discussion they don't like. That's giving them way too much control.
A large portion of society now believe in empowering the government to control more and more.
They prefer to let the bureaucracy take the blame and therefore be responsible for their safety and for any societal errors .

Themes such as "To err on the side of freedom is no error" and "a man who trades freedom for safety, deserves neither" , no longer resonate with these people.
This is one of the reasons the political split in the country now is so wide.
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