Trump and GOP eager to kill Medicare and end health care for 22 million seniors/ disabled (accuse, racist)
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"Then again, what do you expect of trump voters who were more likely to not even have a high school diploma compared to voters of any other candidate"
I'd like to see stats on your claim considering MOST blacks and Hispanics vote dems and have a high drop out rate.
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I heard Republicans want to kill unicorns.
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This is a bald faced lie! Stop it!
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Make sure you save enough so you don't cost taxpayers one cent, because if you do, we'll turn you into Soylent Green! Just work until you die ...it's easier! t206 burgers, anyone!
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If nobody's paying for Grandma, she ain't gonna last long! "Give Mommy a pillow!"
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Trump voters ignore deficits except when democrats create them. Biggest hypocrites on the planet... more trump voters in poor flyover states anyways
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Best plans for the citizens of the country and GOP has voted 2 or 3 times in the House and at least 1 time in the Senate to kill them.
House GOP has passed bills calling for the end . McConnell tried and failed, 49 of his members voted for killing them. McCain came back to the Senate with the old thumb down.
The GOP the party that will do what ever their donors want. Screw the people who vote for them.
Posts like these, and dozens of others on this thread, are making me come to City-Data less often. All emotion and/or sarcasm; no thought or reflection.
[quote=2nd trick op;53419310]Can you provide specific documentation of a Republican effort to abolish (not reform) these measures?
I thought not -- just as the use of Amazon CEO Bezos as a straw man (answered in Post #303) is a red herring.
See the Lyin Ryan plan. Then see the GOP based budget for 2019. Then see McConnell's statement and the subsequent statements trying real hard to walk back.
The biggest fact is the tax cut. It helped out corporations and some individuals. Created the largest deficit with their spending.
I saw this in NC. The GOP flattened the tax structure and lowered corporate taxes. Spending has stopped and forced higher fees as well as sales, property, real estate and every fee around (GOP for taxes).
So the GOP has created a problem and see only one way to fix it.
Medicare and Social Security make up over 50% of the federal budget.
That's a false statement.
Social Security and Medicare are not part of the federal budget, nor have they ever been.
Not only are they not part of the budget and have never been part of the budget, Congress does not appropriate any funding for Social Security or Medicare.
Only once in the history of Social Security has Congress ever appropriated funding.
That happened in 1983.
In spite of the Ford Commission's recommendation to increase the FICA Payroll Tax, and in spite of the Carter Administration commission's report recommending the FICA Payroll Tax be increased, Congress failed or refused to increase the FICA Payroll Tax, resulting in the program becoming insolvent, and the OASI Trust Fund dwindled down to $19 Billion at a time when SSA was spending $12 Billion each month in payments to beneficiaries.
Congress made some changes in Social Security, authorized a step-increase in FICA Payroll Taxes, and appropriated emergency funding to keep SSA solvent through the end of 1983, until the increase in FICA Payroll Taxes was sufficient to make monthly payments and start creating a surplus in the OASI Trust Fund.
That was entirely the fault of Congress, because had they acted timely with the Ford Commission Report, or acted timely with the report issued by the commission established by the Carter Administration, there would have been no need for Congress to appropriate emergency funding out of the General Fund.
Administrative expenses for Social Security are paid for by Social Security. In calendar year 2017, that amounted to $3.66 Billion, but that was paid by SSA out of FICA Payroll Tax Revenues, and not the General Fund from corporate, personal, capital gains and other revenues.
Anyone who claims Social Security or Medicare are part of the federal budget is grossly ill-informed or spreading propaganda and disinformation, because there isn't a kernel of Truth to it.
Anyone who claims Social Security or Medicare are part of the federal budget is grossly ill-informed or spreading propaganda and disinformation, because there isn't a kernel of Truth to it.
Wow....let me guess...you believe in the "lockbox"??? And unicorns and santa Claus too I bet.
Reality = they are federal budget obligations. There is no lockbox
Social Security and Medicare are not part of the federal budget, nor have they ever been.
Not only are they not part of the budget and have never been part of the budget, Congress does not appropriate any funding for Social Security or Medicare.
Only once in the history of Social Security has Congress ever appropriated funding.
That happened in 1983.
In spite of the Ford Commission's recommendation to increase the FICA Payroll Tax, and in spite of the Carter Administration commission's report recommending the FICA Payroll Tax be increased, Congress failed or refused to increase the FICA Payroll Tax, resulting in the program becoming insolvent, and the OASI Trust Fund dwindled down to $19 Billion at a time when SSA was spending $12 Billion each month in payments to beneficiaries.
Congress made some changes in Social Security, authorized a step-increase in FICA Payroll Taxes, and appropriated emergency funding to keep SSA solvent through the end of 1983, until the increase in FICA Payroll Taxes was sufficient to make monthly payments and start creating a surplus in the OASI Trust Fund.
That was entirely the fault of Congress, because had they acted timely with the Ford Commission Report, or acted timely with the report issued by the commission established by the Carter Administration, there would have been no need for Congress to appropriate emergency funding out of the General Fund.
Administrative expenses for Social Security are paid for by Social Security. In calendar year 2017, that amounted to $3.66 Billion, but that was paid by SSA out of FICA Payroll Tax Revenues, and not the General Fund from corporate, personal, capital gains and other revenues.
Anyone who claims Social Security or Medicare are part of the federal budget is grossly ill-informed or spreading propaganda and disinformation, because there isn't a kernel of Truth to it.
One might say that SS and Medicare were to be totally self-funded. And maybe SS still is, I'm not sure. But Medicare is surely not or no longer. So shortfalls are and will continue to be met through the general fund. And as deficit spending is primarily linked to the general fund, that will be the necessary method as we move farther into the future and need say $30T just for HC expenses. Money that doesn't yet even exist.
Don't the Democrats get tired of saying the same lie every election .. they been saying it for fifty years... Does anyone believe them anymore?
Do Republicans not believe their own leaders? McConnell, Ryan, etc?
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