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Old 01-04-2017, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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LMAO.....this should be fun. People more insignificant than democrats think they are going to stop Trump. LOL
This is nonsense!

I'm a dues paying Libertarian and most of the ones I know voted for Trump. Though I voted for Johnson (as a conscientious alternative to a billionaire and a criminal) the billionaire is light years better than the criminal. Bring on the Constitutional Conservative judges to fill more than 100 chairs.

We Libertarians are mostly on Trump's bandwagon, no matter how the left spin their yarns.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Not stop but moderate-mitigate to look at things in a more pro liberty, less government standpoint. For years the major difference in use of the federal government between R and D was the latter. Both increased government scope.
So, let me get this straight: You don't think cutting back on regulations and voiding Obama's executive orders is pro-liberty? I think reducing the size of government is exactly what Trump has said he intends to do. What don't you like about that?
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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I consider myself more Libertarian than anything, and although I'm skeptical of Trump (just as I was of Hillary) I'm willing to give him a chance to see if he can make some significant change to what I consider an over reaching and under productive Federal Government.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:39 PM
 
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This is nonsense!

I'm a dues paying Libertarian and most of the ones I know voted for Trump. Though I voted for Johnson (as a conscientious alternative to a billionaire and a criminal) the billionaire is light years better than the criminal. Bring on the Constitutional Conservative judges to fill more than 100 chairs.

We Libertarians are mostly on Trump's bandwagon, no matter how the left spin their yarns.
Trump is an authoritarian crony capitalist.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:43 PM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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How many libertarians support the use of civil forfeitures? Something Trump's choice for attorney general is a strong proponent of. How many libertarians support unrestricted government use of imminent domain? How many libertarians support weakening the first amendment so that politicians can sue people that criticize them? How many libertarians think women should be punished for having an abortion? How many libertarians think authoritarian autocrat Vladimir Putin is a good guy. How many...well, you get the idea.

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Old 01-04-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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This is nonsense!

I'm a dues paying Libertarian and most of the ones I know voted for Trump.
Few I know did. I know quite a few.

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Though I voted for Johnson (as a conscientious alternative to a billionaire and a criminal) the billionaire is light years better than the criminal. Bring on the Constitutional Conservative judges to fill more than 100 chairs.

We Libertarians are mostly on Trump's bandwagon, no matter how the left spin their yarns.
I believe you are exaggerating. At best.....
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Wanted to note that I know a lot of Libertarian (they say) leaning people who supported Trump who are already disappointed with some things he is speaking about conceding about. Most so-called Libertarians IMO are just Republicans who don't want to admit that they are.

On the Democrats I think they will make a comeback similar to the Republicans did. People always talk this "defeated" and "out of touch" and "insignifcant" language after a party loses big in an election. The same was said in 2008 with Obama and the GOP came back and retook the White House and all other branches of government this past year. It wouldn't be surprising if the Dems came back in the same way. Politics is wishy washy in that way.
So far, Trump isn't "conceding" on any of his promises. Where are you getting that from, MSNBC? Realize that the left-wing media is doing everything it can to discredit Trump, even before he takes office. They are criticizing things he hasn't said he is going to do, and they are criticizing things he has said he will do before they even know the details. They say he has no plan for repealing and replacing Obamacare, but that's not true because I read (I think it was from Heritage foundation) that they have been working on a plan for months that will not leave anyone without insurance when they repeal Obamacare. They know what needs to be done, and they have worked out the details. If you listen to the mainstream media, you'd think they were just going to pull the plug with no plan for a transition.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Houston
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As a libertarian I believe Trump is a greater lesser evil than the typical Republican. Still better than pretty much any Democrat largely due to judicial appointments and regulatory matters. Trade is his weak point, a serious concern.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:56 PM
 
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This is nonsense!

I'm a dues paying Libertarian and most of the ones I know voted for Trump. Though I voted for Johnson (as a conscientious alternative to a billionaire and a criminal) the billionaire is light years better than the criminal. Bring on the Constitutional Conservative judges to fill more than 100 chairs.

We Libertarians are mostly on Trump's bandwagon, no matter how the left spin their yarns.
The Libertarians I am acquainted with in person and on-line do not see much correlation between Trump and their values.

I believe that part of the reason might be is that they tend to clear thinking individuals who value facts, logic, and reasoning whereas Trump and many on this forum resort constantly to name calling, and spreading misinformation.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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So far, Trump isn't "conceding" on any of his promises. Where are you getting that from, MSNBC? Realize that the left-wing media is doing everything it can to discredit Trump, even before he takes office. They are criticizing things he hasn't said he is going to do, and they are criticizing things he has said he will do before they even know the details. They say he has no plan for repealing and replacing Obamacare, but that's not true because I read (I think it was from Heritage foundation) that they have been working on a plan for months that will not leave anyone without insurance when they repeal Obamacare. They know what needs to be done, and they have worked out the details. If you listen to the mainstream media, you'd think they were just going to pull the plug with no plan for a transition.
On the bold, I "get" that from my Libertarian associates. I don't keep up with Trump much. He isn't president yet. Once he is, then I'll pay attention to what he is doing. Also, I don't have cable so don't watch MSNBC and I don't think that cable news is reliable or worthy of being watched and that too many people watch it and are dumb enough to buy into other people's opinions as being real "news."
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