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Old 01-04-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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Haha sovereign nations are free to debate whatever issues they deem pertinent.
They can debate, talk or make any threats they want. We are free to ignore them because they are in no position to be making those threats.

Trump holds all the cards, approximately 11 million of them.
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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All his anti-Mexican rhetoric has led to this...lol



Mexico Proposes Legislation To Counter Border Wall Expansion | Fronteras Desk
Whoa.

Guess we better get the nuclear button out for Trump.
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Old 01-04-2017, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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They can debate, talk or make any threats they want. We are free to ignore them because they are in no position to be making those threats.
Just like they are totally ignoring Trump's rhetoric about paying for his border wall.

That's the funniest joke of all. Mexicans still chuckle about that.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:09 PM
 
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Honestly we should just annex Mexico, with force or not... divide it up onto states, execute all the drug dealers and corrupt police.. no more mister nice guy with corrupt criminal types... we need more warm climate to settle in... all we got is Florida... would be a great economic expansion project, national debt be damned... modernizing Mexico and having all that warm climate to move too... I'd quit my job and either join the Military or join a construction trade to help with it all.. or I wanted to back when I was really in my prime 10 years ago. This has been a longstanding view of mine...
With all the corruption in Mexico and with enough money on the table they will hand over Mexico to us in a heartbeat.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The remittance money is money they earned by providing a service how is that not private property?
First a tiny bit of history. The Bush administration along with the Federal Reserve and Mexican banks and government decided to make it easy for Mexicans (including illegals) living in this country to transfer money earned here back to Mexico. The program was called Directo a Mexico and the Bush Administration spent a lot of money and time promoting it. Yes, the Bush Administration not Obama. At one time the PowerPoint presentation to promote it was on the web. I read it. So when the economy was tanking, we had money flying out of the country which is currently in the neighborhood of $24 billion per Trump and most of it is from Mexican illegals not Americans of Mexican heritage.

2006

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"Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released Federal Reserve marketing materials created for “Directo a México” [Direct to Mexico], a new government program designed to facilitate the transfer of funds from immigrant workers in the U.S. – regardless of their legal status – to their relatives in Mexico. Judicial Watch obtained the marketing materials, prepared for presentations to financial institutions in California in early November 2006, from the Retail Payments Office of the Federal Reserve in Atlanta, Georgia. Marketed as “the best way to send money home,” offering “more pesos for every dollar,” the Federal Reserve’s remittance program charges U.S. financial institutions $0.67 per item to transfer money from the United States to Mexican banks, ensuring a “highly competitive rate.” The Federal Reserve also provides participating U.S. financial institutions with Spanish language promotional materials to “help get your message out.” The program was reportedly launched in response to a directive from President Bush following the 2001 U.S. – Mexico Partnership for Prosperity created by President Bush and then Mexican President Fox. It makes no distinction between “legal” and “illegal” aliens."

Federal Reserve Markets "Directo a México" to U.S. Banks for "Migrant" Transfers of $20 Billion in Remittances to Mexico - Judicial Watch

Trump is planning to do the following:

The regulation 31 CFR 130.121 will be changed to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.

So it won't stop Mexican Americans from wiring money out or Mexicans who are working here legally, only illegals...but Trump says that's the bulk of the money.

Trump will ask Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump says Mexico will balk. Trump will tell them 31 CFR 130.121 will be amended not to allow illegals to do it. Trump says since it is approximately $24 billion annually these days and Mexico has no safety net program for their poor, Trump says he will tell Mexico to pay for the wall and if they do, then the US will tear up the amendment.

As previously mentioned Trump can also raise visa fees which he said could also pay for it.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:12 PM
 
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Just like they are totally ignoring Trump's rhetoric about paying for his border wall.

That's the funniest joke of all. Mexicans still chuckle about that.
I do not give those corrupt idiots south of the border much credence.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Leave it to liberals to cheer on Mexico, who send us their worst, over our own people. Nice jobs folks, give yourselves a round of applause.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:13 PM
 
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Just like they are totally ignoring Trump's rhetoric about paying for his border wall.

That's the funniest joke of all. Mexicans still chuckle about that.
Trump has said he will cut off the Mexican remittances if they don't want to pay for the wall which he can do. The Mexicans won't be laughing then. Mexico needs us way more than we need them.


Trump proposes funding wall by cutting off remittances
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Leave it to liberals to cheer on Mexico.
And leave it to Nincompoop extreme rightwingers to cheer on Trump being Putin's lap dog. #woof
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I do not give those corrupt idiots south of the border much credence.
Something tells me they arent losing sleep over you either-call me crazy.

lol
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