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the people through their elected representatives to provide a system of health care through the federal government
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare,
the preamble is NOT law. it merely indicates what the constitution is all about. if the founders wanted the federal government to provide health care, they would have made it a priority. it is up to the STATES to provide health care not the federal government. why? because a one size fits all approach DOES NOT WORK.
Does the general welfare also us to take over countries to in case Americans like living in the carribean? If you like to take things out of context, what can't we just apply "general welfare" to just about ANYTHING... cause you can...
And anyone who believes that a message as simple as the Preamble, (or Article 1, for that matter), can be interpreted as a spending mandate is also likely to believe that there's a huge pile of money out there to finance the pipe-dreams.
Congress could expand Medicare by lowering the age or expand Medicaid by raising the income limit. While you may think either decisions would be bad they are constitutional.
the preamble is NOT law. it merely indicates what the constitution is all about. if the founders wanted the federal government to provide health care, they would have made it a priority. it is up to the STATES to provide health care not the federal government. why? because a one size fits all approach DOES NOT WORK.
Back in the days of the founders and slave holders, health care was the local witch doctor.
You are living in 2016. Your deification of these people is creepy and is eerily reminiscent of propaganda from various dictatorships.
Before you get all excited, remember those pesky CREATOR ENDOWED RIGHTS?
If one has the endowed / inherent / sacred right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (which are defined in natural and personal liberty, absolute ownership, and inherent powers), that government was instituted to secure, then that government can not tax, trespass nor infringe upon those endowments without YOUR CONSENT.
Obviously, most Americans do not know how and when they consented to be governed, and thus surrendered those endowments in exchange for government privileges that imposed mandatory civic duties (i.e. militia duty, jury duty, taxes).
Nor are they aware that national socialism (FICA / Social Security) is 100% voluntary, and no law punishes nonparticipants who are not subject to those socialist taxes.
RIGHTS, PRIVILEGES, POWERS, IMMUNITIES
. . . Pursuant to the Declaration of Independence, Americans have Creator endowed rights that governments were instituted to secure.
. . . Under the republican form of government, Americans are sovereigns without subjects, and have none to govern but themselves.
. . . By your consent to be governed, you may aspire to public service and govern / rule others who also consented to be governed. But in exchange for the privilege, you waive your endowments and accept mandatory civic duties.
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• In America, if you have endowed rights, you’re under the republican form of government.
• If instead of endowed rights, you have "constitutional rights" (privileges), and mandatory civic duties, you’re under the constitutionally limited indirect democracy that serves the people in the republican form of government - by your consent.
• If you have socialist obligations, you’ve volunteered into the socialist democratic form, via FICA - again, by your consent.
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If you're sovereign, under the republican form, served by government, what more do you want?
But if you want to rule another, under the democratic form, that requires your own submission, so sit down, shut up, and obey.
the preamble is NOT law. it merely indicates what the constitution is all about. if the founders wanted the federal government to provide health care, they would have made it a priority. it is up to the STATES to provide health care not the federal government. why? because a one size fits all approach DOES NOT WORK.
Agreed, but the preamble was written for a reason as well, often noted as the general goal(s) for the Constitution and America...
The Preamble to the United States Constitution is a brief introductory statement of the Constitution's fundamental purposes and guiding principles. It states in general terms, and courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of, the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped the Constitution would achieve.
True as well the issue of interpretation is not always so "black and white," since by definition a general statement as to intentions leaves open what those intentions might more specifically involve, especially as we consider what the Founding Fathers knew then as compared to what we know now. Just the population alone back then, estimated at about 2.5 million, involved far different considerations as compared to what we are dealing with now that we are about 350 million with an economy measured at about 20 trillion per year. Compare today's economy to that of 13 colonies and fur trade the primary source of prosperity for Americans, people living on small farms, mostly self-sufficient...
Of course the Founding Fathers could not contemplate the concept of what today we know as health care, and good luck to anyone who might try to make a case that "general welfare" meant then what those words mean to us today, but the Founding Fathers also put into play a process in which future generations would decide what the American government would do or not do on behalf of American interests. This is what we are rightfully doing today, and I think Obama was right to lead the way toward the ACA, so far more specifically also deemed Constitutional. All we need to do now is work to improve the ACA just as the Social Security Act has been amended/improved countless times since 1935.
Unfortunately, along comes the Tea Party and Trump to set us back a bit, but I am hopeful the progress made will continue to prevail over time despite the set backs.
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