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Old 02-03-2017, 09:24 PM
 
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Our national security isn't being served!!

Why doesn't he Saudi Arabia and Pakistan on the list?
They should be restricted too at is not a argument . These countries can prove to they are screening that's great. If not close that door until ISSA can be dealt with!
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this extra security check decision made at the highest level of gov?

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As I've noted in other threads. If Trump actually wants to do things he is going to have to quit being lazy, get his people in place and pass laws.
ahhh....probably because his cabinet picks have been delayed by the dems?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-cabinet-picks

You might want to note this reality "in other threads".
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Immigration and protecting citizens is Trump's main obligation. Obama abdicated his job.
Really? So why is President Obama called the "Deporter-in-chief"? He has deported more than 2.4 million "illegals" which was more than any other president combined has done.
How did he "abdicate" his job ???

Please inform us with your "alternative facts "!

Trump right on Obama's deportation numbers, wrong about nobody talking about it | PolitiFact


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Old 02-03-2017, 09:31 PM
 
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Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this ban made at the highest level of gov?
Just wait and watch. I'll bet Trump was 1 step ahead and expecting this move. We have seen from the primaries that he is playing chess not checkers. I will probably be criticized, but just watch his next move.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:32 PM
 
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Really? So why is President Obama called the "Deporter-in-chief"? He has deported more than 2.4 million "illegals" which was more than any other president combined has done.
How did he "abdicate" his job ???

Please inform us with your "alternative facts "!

Not really he let in Unvetted Syrians.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Just wait and watch. I'll bet Trump was 1 step ahead and expecting this move. We have seen from the primaries that he is playing chess not checkers. I will probably be criticized, but just watch his next move.
I think you're 100% correct!
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:36 PM
 
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Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this extra security check decision made at the highest level of gov?



ahhh....probably because his cabinet picks have been delayed by the dems?

Dems call for Senate to delay hearings on Trump's Cabinet picks | TheHill

You might want to note this reality "in other threads".
It doesn't don't worry...
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:38 PM
 
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Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this extra security check decision made at the highest level of gov?
No lawyer here, but the theory should be that even though we are 50 states there's no need to reinvent the wheel. If a question comes up in one state and is ruled on by a FEDERAL judge it applies on a National basis. Now because issues are never absolutely identical, there's nothing to prevent another Federal judge from ruling in a way that appears to be contradictory elsewhere so we end up with multiple case law. The Supreme Court becomes the final arbiter.

Because the language in the Washington order was "broader" than the other cases, it will take precedence until further judicial action.

Part of the problem seems to be that the executive order was not well drafted and grouped together parties of differing classes or standings. Portions of the order could well be found constitutional and stand for one class of individuals but not for another.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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Why in the world should the ruling of a judge in Washington state, regardless if it's a federal judge, who argue the matter harms Washington state(love that one), impact the entire nation on halting this extra security check decision made at the highest level of gov?



ahhh....probably because his cabinet picks have been delayed by the dems?

Dems call for Senate to delay hearings on Trump's Cabinet picks | TheHill

You might want to note this reality "in other threads".
Or because he's in too big a frigging hurry to do it right. In any case, order vetting is done by the worker bees - the attorneys and the like. They are in place, being paid, and ready to work.
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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No lawyer here, but the theory should be that even though we are 50 states there's no need to reinvent the wheel. If a question comes up in one state and is ruled on by a FEDERAL judge it applies on a National basis. Now because issues are never absolutely identical, there's nothing to prevent another Federal judge from ruling in a way that appears to be contradictory elsewhere so we end up with multiple case law. The Supreme Court becomes the final arbiter.

Because the language in the Washington order was "broader" than the other cases, it will take precedence until further judicial action.

Part of the problem seems to be that the executive order was not well drafted and grouped together parties of differing classes or standings. Portions of the order could well be found constitutional and stand for one class of individuals but not for another.
Already happened - today as a matter of fact - in Massachusetts. Same argument, same evidence presented, different conclusion.
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