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Old 02-13-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: My House
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That's a lie and you know it. Let's pretend that speaking styles were reversed, i.e. Hillary/Obama sounded like Trump and Trump sounded like Hillary/Obama but their politics stayed the same, you know you wouldn't hate Hillary/Obama regardless of what they sound like.
No. I would not want them for office if they were incapable of giving dignified, intelligent speeches. And of not bullying people.

But, please keep in mind that I hold advanced degrees in English and Communication, so my bar is high.

If Trump's speeches were somewhat on the "simple" side, but he wasn't preaching fear and divisiveness, I might be able to give him a pass if I agreed with his politics.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:08 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Why are people so infatuated how he speaks (style) while apparently so uncaring about what he says (substance)?
Don't ask me. Ask the posters here that are hung up on his style.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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What percentage of Trump voters do you call his "base"?
All those people don't understand complex words?
Generally. I realize that there are Trump supporters who understand complex words.

I do not define them as the core base, though.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:09 AM
 
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Don't ask me. Ask the posters here that are hung up on his style.
You're a perfect person to ask. Why do you not care that his speeches offer so little substance?
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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I think there is a ZERO percent chance of anyone in this thread delivering campaign speeches as impressively as President Trump did.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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No. I would not want them for office if they were incapable of giving dignified, intelligent speeches. And of not bullying people.

But, please keep in mind that I hold advanced degrees in English and Communication, so my bar is high.

If Trump's speeches were somewhat on the "simple" side, but he wasn't preaching fear and divisiveness, I might be able to give him a pass if I agreed with his politics.
So then you are admitting you are against his politics, not his speaking ability.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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So then you are admitting you are against his politics, not his speaking ability.
I dislike them both. Obviously, I could tolerate his rambling speeches if he wasn't doing stuff I found highly disagreeable, but I would not be on here touting his powers of oration, no.
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Center City
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That's just your biased opinion because you don't like him politically. If he was a liberal, you wouldn't say he was an idiot. And don't say you would because you know you wouldn't.
Wrong for me. I'm a liberal, and I wouldn't want Bill Mather or Keith Olbermann as president.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 08:13 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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well, one out of two ain't bad
Funniest comment of the day! I wish I could rep you more than once.
 
Old 02-13-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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President Trump uses one sentence paragraphs, words with at most two syllables, and tends to emphasis his points by repeating them, sometimes in the same breath. I'd say that it might be an indication that he has a limited grasp of the language, or that he simply doesn't have the intellectual capacity to speak in a more nuanced and detailed manner, but it might simply be the case that Donald Trump's speaks in a style that's most accessible to his base.

"Ernest Hemingway...has never been known to use a word that might cause the reader to check the dictionary to see if it is properly used." - William Faulkner, from a University of Mississippi lecture and Q&A in 1947, published in 1951.

"Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?" - Ernest Hemingway, from an interview in the early 1950's for Pappa Hemmingway: A Personal Memoir by AE Hotchner, 1966.

I suppose that if Donald Trump had authored any books or papers (no, his ghost-written best seller doesn't count), his manner of communication might be different from his speeches.
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