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Old 02-14-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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I have heard so much about "Make America Great Again (TM)" over the past 6 months or so and I have got to ask:

What's was so horrible about it before Trump rolled into town with his Made in China hats and told you all that this place was a cesspool?

Come on. America has flaws, like any other country, but it's surely not a terrible country.

Have you see the places that refugees are trying to escape to come here?!?

Even the Rust Belt, angry voters who are upset about jobs have it better than refugees.

Even in Flint, where the water is polluted and dangerous, those people still have warm homes and a roof over their heads. And food to eat.

So, again, I ask you...

What is so terrible that must be made great and can only be done by a lying swindler like Trump?
It's about the living wage. It didn't keep up with inflation.

If you've ever wondered why your paycheck is stretched so thin compared with what your parents had, we have bad news: According to a new report, you're making less money than any generation before you—and the chances of you catching up over the course of your career are basically zero.

The new report, released this week by the comptroller's office in New York City, paints a bleak picture for working millennials, showing that Generation Y earns about 20 percent less than that previous generation at the same point in their lives—and this sluggish salary start could stunt their lifetime earning power, which means millennials may never reach the same standard of living as their parents.

"Millennials were applying for jobs in the most difficult economic climate since the Great Depression and as a result, a growing number are now working in low-wage industries and earning less than their predecessors," comptroller Scott M. Stringer explains in a statement. "This group of young people is confronting unique economic challenges that their parents did not have to face. Every generation is expected to do better than the last, but too many millennials are not getting a fair chance to make it in New York City."

Of course, this report is specific to New York—but it's not a leap to assume that what is happening in this microcosm of America is also happening across the country. In fact, other data already shows it.

There, millennials are increasingly working in low-wage fields like retail, food service, and hospitality. These industries are adding jobs—hospitality and food services alone added 91,000 positions in the city from 2000 to 2014—but the pay isn't keeping pace. While jobs increased, salaries decreased, with real wages in both sectors falling by 16 percent in that same time, the report shows.

At the same time, millennials are not finding work in high-paying fields. Take finance: From 2000 to 2014, positions in this field declined by 11 percent, while real wages rose by 14 percent.

The comptroller ventures a departure from high-paying fields has little to do with education: millennials sticking to minimum-wage work often hold bachelor's degrees—with the percent of college-educated millennials working in low-wage industries growing from 23 percent to 33 percent between 2000 and 2014, the report shows. Hefty student loans may be forcing millennials to go for the first low-paying job they can grab, rather than waiting for high-paying work down the road.

“This generation is at a crossroads," Stringer said. "They worked hard, got an education, and then faced roadblocks to getting a good-paying job. It’s time for us to pay attention to the largest generation in New York City, and start to break down those barriers. We need to foster an economy here that helps young people get ahead, not one that holds them back."
Millennials Are Making Less Money Than Any Other Generation | Glamour

Jobs that pay a living wage disappeared for a lot of people and they ended up in jobs that don't pay a living wage and have to work two or three. Trump wants to bring back jobs that pay a living wage again for people who work more than one job, etc.

It's not about bringing back homemakers, and racism like people try to spin it but you can't convince those who don't want to be.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:58 PM
 
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No, those are the reasons that Trump followers think America is awful. They think America is awful because they are racists.
See ^^ what did I tell you, a perfect illustration of my point.

I suggest you dig a bit deeper.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I have heard so much about "Make America Great Again (TM)" over the past 6 months or so and I have got to ask:

What's was so horrible about it before Trump rolled into town with his Made in China hats and told you all that this place was a cesspool?

Come on. America has flaws, like any other country, but it's surely not a terrible country.

Have you see the places that refugees are trying to escape to come here?!?

Even the Rust Belt, angry voters who are upset about jobs have it better than refugees.

Even in Flint, where the water is polluted and dangerous, those people still have warm homes and a roof over their heads. And food to eat.

So, again, I ask you...

What is so terrible that must be made great and can only be done by a lying swindler like Trump?
America is not a terrible country, but it's failing in every major category. In no particular order:

Infrastructure - It's pathetic and even scary. Roads, bridges, electrical grid etc.. all outdated, all vulnerable to cause harm to many people. Other countries are way ahead of us in this category.

Treating Vets Like crap

Obamacare - never solved the problem of out of control healthcare costs and put a large burden on many more people than it actually helped.

Terrorism - Obama ignored it, pretended that it wasn't really happening, but within his 8 years, there have been countless attacks on the homeland. Ft. Hood was NOT workplace violence. Does anyone even remember the lady who got decapitated in OK?

More racial divide and hatred against cops

Economy - anyone who thinks Obama did a great job recovering the economy is delusional. Many people just simply gave up looking for work. When you have college grads working at Starbucks and living with their parents, something is seriously wrong.
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Old 02-14-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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I remember another President talking about malaise. And another one about our long national nightmare.

There was also a missile gap and a science deficit.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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I think he focuses more of a nationalist approach. What Obama basically did was start to sell America out to other countries. Tried to do the whole "one world" movement. Shipping our jobs overseas. Adding 9 trillion in debt that our kids will be paying off. Basically, in the big cities, rent and home prices tripled in value, and people in cities seemed to be doing okay, but that was really about it. Basically, another 8 years of Obama's policies would have crippled the US. This coming from a democrat/liberal.

Education system is terrible. We have some of the lowest test scores compared to other nations, and most people leave school these days not knowing anything. This is why I'm not sure why everyone is hating on Devos like she's the devil, when the DOE has not been great in years.

Obamacare helped people, but it also increased premiums and it was MANDATORY to get it or else you face a hefty tax penalty. If you're a small business, you were basically screwed because of the insurance companies raising the rates. My own insurance went up a significant amount.It's good in theory, but it's super flawed.

And now, well, look around you. Identity politics started to come into play during the Obama administration. I was discussing with a friend that 10 years ago, we didn't have all this BLM, or Women's Oppression, or LGBT issue. For the most part, race and identity wasn't a huge deal 10 years ago as it is today.

So to me, when he says "lets make america great again", it seems like he's trying to stop the USA from being basically sold and indebted to other countries and to stop us being the world police, and to focus on issues here at home first.


Then the media spun it with the race crap and made it "Oh hes only talking about white people!"
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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It's about the living wage. It didn't keep up with inflation.

If you've ever wondered why your paycheck is stretched so thin compared with what your parents had, we have bad news: According to a new report, you're making less money than any generation before you—and the chances of you catching up over the course of your career are basically zero.

The new report, released this week by the comptroller's office in New York City, paints a bleak picture for working millennials, showing that Generation Y earns about 20 percent less than that previous generation at the same point in their lives—and this sluggish salary start could stunt their lifetime earning power, which means millennials may never reach the same standard of living as their parents.

"Millennials were applying for jobs in the most difficult economic climate since the Great Depression and as a result, a growing number are now working in low-wage industries and earning less than their predecessors," comptroller Scott M. Stringer explains in a statement. "This group of young people is confronting unique economic challenges that their parents did not have to face. Every generation is expected to do better than the last, but too many millennials are not getting a fair chance to make it in New York City."

Of course, this report is specific to New York—but it's not a leap to assume that what is happening in this microcosm of America is also happening across the country. In fact, other data already shows it.

There, millennials are increasingly working in low-wage fields like retail, food service, and hospitality. These industries are adding jobs—hospitality and food services alone added 91,000 positions in the city from 2000 to 2014—but the pay isn't keeping pace. While jobs increased, salaries decreased, with real wages in both sectors falling by 16 percent in that same time, the report shows.

At the same time, millennials are not finding work in high-paying fields. Take finance: From 2000 to 2014, positions in this field declined by 11 percent, while real wages rose by 14 percent.

The comptroller ventures a departure from high-paying fields has little to do with education: millennials sticking to minimum-wage work often hold bachelor's degrees—with the percent of college-educated millennials working in low-wage industries growing from 23 percent to 33 percent between 2000 and 2014, the report shows. Hefty student loans may be forcing millennials to go for the first low-paying job they can grab, rather than waiting for high-paying work down the road.

“This generation is at a crossroads," Stringer said. "They worked hard, got an education, and then faced roadblocks to getting a good-paying job. It’s time for us to pay attention to the largest generation in New York City, and start to break down those barriers. We need to foster an economy here that helps young people get ahead, not one that holds them back."
Millennials Are Making Less Money Than Any Other Generation | Glamour

Jobs that pay a living wage disappeared for a lot of people and they ended up in jobs that don't pay a living wage and have to work two or three. Trump wants to bring back jobs that pay a living wage again for people who work more than one job, etc.

It's not about bringing back homemakers, and racism like people try to spin it but you can't convince those who don't want to be.

So, instead of voting for the candidate that wanted to increase the minimum wage and make college more affordable, they voted for the huckster who promised to bring back coal and manufacturing, while simultaneously insisting that American wages were too high? Trump didn't offer anything for struggling people except trickle down. Nope. Trump tapped into people's racial resentment and they voted for him in droves.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Trumps a business man so think financial.

The liberal press will minimize the Carrier deal, pointing out that 1,000 jobs will not of itself lift economic growth, and that structural cost problems remain for U.S. manufacturers. Paying Mexican laborers three dollars an hour is a powerful enticement; workers in Indianapolis are making more than $20.

Carrier deal is proof that Trump is already making America great again | Fox News

Bringing back these jobs that pay a decent wage for Americans instead of outsourcing them to use slave labor in the south.
The middle of this country use to be humming with decent factory jobs. That is another of his means to make America great again.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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America is not a terrible country, but it's failing in every major category. In no particular order:

Infrastructure - It's pathetic and even scary. Roads, bridges, electrical grid etc.. all outdated, all vulnerable to cause harm to many people. Other countries are way ahead of us in this category.

Treating Vets Like crap

Obamacare - never solved the problem of out of control healthcare costs and put a large burden on many more people than it actually helped.

Terrorism - Obama ignored it, pretended that it wasn't really happening, but within his 8 years, there have been countless attacks on the homeland. Ft. Hood was NOT workplace violence. Does anyone even remember the lady who got decapitated in OK?

More racial divide and hatred against cops

Economy - anyone who thinks Obama did a great job recovering the economy is delusional. Many people just simply gave up looking for work. When you have college grads working at Starbucks and living with their parents, something is seriously wrong.
That's ^ a big one. We are run down, and we use to be ahead in infrastructure.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by RedZin View Post
I have heard so much about "Make America Great Again (TM)" over the past 6 months or so and I have got to ask:

What's was so horrible about it before Trump rolled into town with his Made in China hats and told you all that this place was a cesspool?

Come on. America has flaws, like any other country, but it's surely not a terrible country.

Have you see the places that refugees are trying to escape to come here?!?

Even the Rust Belt, angry voters who are upset about jobs have it better than refugees.

Even in Flint, where the water is polluted and dangerous, those people still have warm homes and a roof over their heads. And food to eat.

So, again, I ask you...

What is so terrible that must be made great and can only be done by a lying swindler like Trump?
Obama made Americans think this place sucked. He went on a world apology tour and bowed down to every world leader he could get an audience with. So we needed a President that would stand up and Make America Great Again.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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[quote=Myghost;47194383]Unpatriotic Trump and his followers think our country is a disaster. (Their words, not ours). They have rewritten the narrative to make us look bad as a country, because if they don't, then they don't have a crisis to fix, and if there is no crisis to fix, then he doesn't get elected.

Worst thing for his type is another Obama economy, where the Dow triples, we reach full employment, there are no terrorist attacks, and we gain respect on the world stage. When that happens, they can't distract us while he robs from the poor and gives it to the rich.

.[j/QUOTE]

The economy is improving because the Republicans blocked Obamanomics with the sequester. You Liberals always claim Republicans blocked Obama's agenda, right? Well, your proof is in the economy.
Anything Obama accomplished only benefited the 1%.
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