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There is a non-violent coup underway. The Democrats, media, federal bureaucracy, intelligence community and establishment Republicans are making it clear they they will not allow someone that isn't one of their own to be President.
You seriously didn't see any of this in the Obama administration? Leaks were a big part of the Obama administration, yet, most thought President Obama was doing a great job, now some of you seem worried.
Ah, would you like to share any examples?
And no, overblown and precedented mistakes like Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and Obama's [average] amount of vacations don't count.
Can't wait for more. Trump has pissed off the intelligence community and they are subjecting him to political death of a thousand cuts cyber style. They probably have all the goods on him but are stringing it out for the final knock out blow. Sometime soon we'll see the mother lode of damaging leaks. It'll be bigger than Watergate.
Can't wait for more. Trump has pissed off the intelligence community and they are subjecting him to political death of a thousand cuts cyber style. They probably have all the goods on him but are stringing it out for the final knock out blow. Sometime soon we'll see the mother lode of damaging leaks. It'll be bigger than Watergate.
The overthrow of an elected president by the deep state and the establishment is the kind of thing that could start a civil war.
The overthrow of an elected president by the deep state and the establishment is the kind of thing that could start a civil war.
I think it will be by Trumps own doing. Currently he's not running the most intelligent of administrations. You can't encourage and promote leaks like Wiki when it's pointed at Clinton, then cry like a baby when the leaks are fingering you.
Remember this guy encouraged the FBI to investigate those e-mails uncovered by a hack- right?
He has no moral high ground.
And right now it certainly appears the majority of the country really doesn't like the guy. Buyers remorse maybe?
So what 'Civil War'? He's hardly a defensible sort.
Trump made the very bad mistake of ridiculing the intelligence community. That is like playing Russian roulette. You don't **** off a group of people who have access to every move you make, and every call you make.
It just goes to show how stupid he is, thinking he can bully everyone, make fun of everyone, and have no one gunning for him. Kinda like running up to a tiger and pulling it's tail. Bet the agencies are laughing their butts off right now, watching Mr. Big Mouth squirm.
Even if that was true, that gives them absolutely NO right to leak or otherwise contravene laws and rules that are there to regulate their conduct.
One can hold a private opinion but if one is in a position of trust within the intelligence community, which is there to do a job and support the President's aims even if individuals within that service dislike him or his office intensely, if any in those positions violate laws they should be investigated and out-ed and ousted immediately if they have not acted according to what their position and the law demands. It is NOT kosher to leak or to step outside the bounds of your conditions of employment no matter who you like or dislike. If someone who is an intelligence agent cannot live with that, they should do the honourable thing and leave their positions.
So what 'Civil War'? He's hardly a defensible sort.
I suspect if there is a palace coup then a number of states will stop listening to the federal government. It's happening already. The Union is already on thin ice and third world presidential overthrows might be the thing that gets states talking to each other about going it separately.
I don't see this as primarily about Trump. I see this as the power mongers showing their true faces in public. We're seeing what McCain, McConnell and Ryan are about.
Trump made the very bad mistake of ridiculing the intelligence community. That is like playing Russian roulette. You don't **** off a group of people who have access to every move you make, and every call you make.
It just goes to show how stupid he is, thinking he can bully everyone, make fun of everyone, and have no one gunning for him. Kinda like running up to a tiger and pulling it's tail. Bet the agencies are laughing their butts off right now, watching Mr. Big Mouth squirm.
Trumps criticism is beside the point. The intel community is there to defend the Constitution and provide the sitting president with the best available information. That is their job.
Right now you have rogue actors in the intel community actively working to undermine a sitting president. You think that's funny but the reality is that this sort of thing is extremely dangerous.
I don't know where all of this will go but it's no laughing matter.
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There is a non-violent coup underway. The Democrats, media, federal bureaucracy, intelligence community and establishment Republicans are making it clear they they will not allow someone that isn't one of their own to be President.
So we get pence then? Great.
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