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Old 02-17-2017, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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This is a great editorial.

Advice for My Conservative Students - New York Times

Highlights for me:

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I was never a victim. My message to conservative students is that neither are you. The leaders and pundits who say otherwise are doing you a disservice. Sure, they’re getting a lot of clicks and selling ads by framing your struggle as one of an embattled minority silenced by the overbearing liberalism of academia, but that false equivalence is not helping you prepare for the wider world.
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Many conservative students denounced recent protests against the college tour of the right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos as an attack on free speech. In all likelihood, those were protests against Mr. Yiannopoulos’s bullying and ridicule. A “conservative campus speaker” is not someone who belittles left-wing students, but whose visit is for teaching and learning.
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Put conservative ideas at the forefront of your politics, even if conservative leaders and icons have largely abandoned conservatism. In some ways your potential to make civil choices and to restore dignity to the Republican Party makes you the most crucial allies of those across the political spectrum who care about truth, honor, liberty and democracy.
Lots of nuggets of wisdom in this editorial. And it recognizes that disagreements about conservative ideology are not the enemy, but we have a lot of fake conservative movements, let's call it alternative conservatism, happening right now and they re derailing authentic and important dialogue.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"Protests"?

You mean the riots where private property was destroyed and the non-aggression principle was absent?

Oh Jade. Even you can do better than this.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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"Protests"?

You mean the riots where private property was destroyed and the non-aggression principle was absent?

Oh Jade. Even you can do better than this.
You mean when random people showed up to hijack the cause just like at the Occupy Movement protests. Those people in black did not represent the larger sentiment of the crowd.

It is too much to ask for you to actually review the editorial I posted that said, learn how to debate without resorting to name calling and become more effective at communicating the true conservative ideals. But yes, obviously we can ignore these valid ideas because a liberal posted it. :roll eyes:

Maybe go and read the article I quoted that offered a helpful workflow for promoting conservatism.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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You mean when random people showed up to hijack the cause just like at the Occupy Movement protests. Those people in black did not represent the larger sentiment of the crowd.

It is too much to ask for you to actually review the editorial I posted that said, learn how to debate without resorting to name calling and become more effective at communicating the true conservative ideals. But yes, obviously we can ignore these valid ideas because a liberal posted it. :roll eyes:

Maybe go and read the article I quoted that offered a helpful workflow for promoting conservatism.
Conservatives denounced riots.

Not protests.

We can't have a conversation based on a false premise.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Oh goody, advice lectures from the NY Times.
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Old 02-17-2017, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Oh goody, advice lectures from the NY Times.
Yeah really.

Next up: CNN tackles journalistic integrity.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Conservatives denounced riots.

Not protests.

We can't have a conversation based on a false premise.
Liberals denounced riots. So we are in agreement. But don't bucket the rabble rousers who show up to everything as part of the protest.
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Oh goody, advice lectures from the NY Times.
Don't trust a conservative professor, Aaron Hanlon?
https://newrepublic.com/authors/aaron-r-hanlon
Essays and Media
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:14 PM
 
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Lots of nuggets of c***..
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Old 02-17-2017, 06:21 PM
 
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Liberals denounced riots. So we are in agreement. But don't bucket the rabble rousers who show up to everything as part of the protest.
But your article says conservatives denounced protests. They denounced riots.

I subscribe to Milo's YouTube channel. There are oodles of protests against him in every college town he goes to. Another recent one saw someone get shot.

Aside from that and the riot (those are two big asides) liberals have generally protested quite well against him. And generally speaking conservatives have been cool with it. Protest it but let me have freedom of movement and don't destroy my private property.
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