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Old 02-26-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Once a majority government is formed, so long as party discipline is maintained, the government can ram through whatever legislation it wants.
The government only pushes the legislation it ran on during the election campaign. It's called a mandate.
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Old 02-26-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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The best part of a Parliamentarian form of government is the 'no confidence' vote that could end the leader's term prematurely.
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: near bears but at least no snakes
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The best part of a Parliamentarian form of government is the 'no confidence' vote that could end the leader's term prematurely.
Yes. In that way it seems more sensitive to how well the leader is doing his job and how well he is attending to the needs of his constituents. When he stops being effective, he's out. Keeps him on his toes--or else!
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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A European friend of mine asked, why doesn't America have a parliamentary system like in Europe?

His argument is that a parliamentary system is better because:

- it's more efficient (he thinks it would greatly lessen the partisan turmoil we're having)
- it makes the leaders more accountable
- it lessens corruption
- quality of the leader is better because the party leader (or president in our case) is supposed to be the cream of the crop...

Instead we have a presidential system where someone can be elected based on what seems like a popularity contest and not based on competence/experience level....

Please no bashing of one party over another, this is meant to be a debate for those who truly understand the merits of both systems and can speak to them..

Thoughts? And who do you think should be that leader if we have this system?


No

We are doing just fine.
Now, repealing the 16th & 17th Amendments.... You may really have my full interest
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Yes. In that way it seems more sensitive to how well the leader is doing his job and how well he is attending to the needs of his constituents. When he stops being effective, he's out. Keeps him on his toes--or else!
That only happens in a minority government (minority = government has less than half the seats in the house). A no-confidence vote is a vote launched by one of the opposition parties that effectively dissolves parliament and triggers another election. The whole house of cards falls, not just the head of government.
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Funny how every single time in the 62 years I've been alive that when a Republican becomes President the proposal we transition to a parliamentary system gets introduced.
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Old 02-26-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Funny how every single time in the 62 years I've been alive that when a Republican becomes President the proposal we transition to a parliamentary system gets introduced.

Each County/Parish has a voice?
Not districts... By County/Parish
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Old 02-26-2017, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Finland
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The best part of a Parliamentarian form of government is the 'no confidence' vote that could end the leader's term prematurely.
Its something the US could really do with right now.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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A European friend of mine asked, why doesn't America have a parliamentary system like in Europe?
I am glad to see this question. I have been pondering it for years.

Right now voters have to make these internal compromises when supporting candidates, they are mostly aligned with them, or partly aligned with them but almost never wholly aligned. It is like a deal with the devil. The only real winners are the professional lobbyists [who vote with money that can make one's representative betray his own divided constituency].

The public would be better served by several parties in the marketplace of ideas. A parliamentary system is more suitable for bringing multiple parties together to govern a country.
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Old 02-26-2017, 06:55 PM
 
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That only happens in a minority government (minority = government has less than half the seats in the house). A no-confidence vote is a vote launched by one of the opposition parties that effectively dissolves parliament and triggers another election. The whole house of cards falls, not just the head of government.
Again hence the British book and television series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_..._(UK_TV_series)


https://www.theatlantic.com/entertai...iginal/283795/


Again urge those who have only seen the American version and or never the British to have a watch. Then come back and see if you still argue in favor of the US having a Parliamentary system of government.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEDuUjLZiPo




Post this clip for a reason:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEDuUjLZiPo


By not giving his Chief Whip (Frances Urquhart) the position he wanted, the PM created a powerful enemy, one who would bring him down and soon take his place.
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