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All calls to/from Russian politicians are monitored, Flynn should have known it. Monitoring those calls =/= wiretapping the President.
Take a deep breath, relax, it's going to be ok within 6 months Trump will either resign, be impeached, or be kept on large enough doses of psych meds to keep him off of twitter !
I'll be okay if within six months, you have bought a clue.
There are Only two ways a citizens communications can be intercepted:
A title 3 warrant which is a criminal inquiry
A fisa warrant which is an intelligence inquiry
Trump would now have access to the paper trail that either of these warrants would leave behind!
If there is no paper trail that would mean that the papers were shreded (felony) or that there Were No warrants .. also a felony!
I'll be okay if within six months, you have bought a clue.
There are Only two ways a citizens communications can be intercepted:
A title 3 warrant which is a criminal inquiry
A fisa warrant which is an intelligence inquiry
Trump would now have access to the paper trail that either of these warrants would leave behind!
If there is no paper trail that would mean that the papers were shreded (felony) or that there Were No warrants .. also a felony!
Trump holds the cards!
And yet he has not shown them, if he had a winning hand he would not be able to control himself and he would produce them. That means he has Squat, other than a Big Mouth, which is going to get him in hotter water than he already is in with many Congressmen and with the entire Intel Community. Trump is going to learn some real hard lessons soon enough.
I wonder if they wiretapped Bernie Sanders and what they had on him because after meeting with Hillary he ran fast into her arms. He even joined forces with the very establishment he spoke out against.
I'll be okay if within six months, you have bought a clue.
There are Only two ways a citizens communications can be intercepted:
A title 3 warrant which is a criminal inquiry
A fisa warrant which is an intelligence inquiry
Trump would now have access to the paper trail that either of these warrants would leave behind!
If there is no paper trail that would mean that the papers were shreded (felony) or that there Were No warrants .. also a felony!
Trump holds the cards!
Here you go read this, then we can talk, ok?
"US intelligence agencies routinely capture communications of senior foreign officials, including those based in the US, other intelligence officials said. The Wall Street Journal was first to report that investigators had looked at the calls. Among the communications being scrutinized are calls between Russia’s ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, and Flynn on December 29. The calls came on the same day the US announced further sanctions against Russia and expelled a group of 35 Russian diplomats the US had accused of spying." Calls Between Trump’s National Security Advisor, Russian Ambassador Under Investigation by U.S. | KTLA
But surveillance experts — and especially surveillance critics — were quick to note the myriad other routes officials have to get at the banter inside Trump Tower. Through routine data collection programs authorized under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the government gathers information from the internet backbone, which carries web browsing histories and a rapidly increasing amount of telephone traffic. The government discards information that is plainly domestic and searches through the rest using only specific selectors — a phone number or email address, for instance. But Americans’ information that is incidentally collected and determined to contain some foreign intelligence value is fair game for review. Cohn said such data on Americans could include communications that are to, from or about foreign targets the FISA court has already approved for surveillance. For example, if two Trump campaign officials were talking via email about a Moscow official under surveillance, that conversation might get flagged as relevant.How the feds could have listened to Trump’s phone calls - POLITICO
Next time you talk to your friends on the Trump Team remind them of this "loose lips sink ships"
Chaffetz is such a liar. I really enjoyed hearing the innuendo about 40 secret service agents investigating him. Know what really happened? Little Jason applied for a job with the secret service and for whatever reason got turned down. It was discovered in 2015 that 40 secret service agents had inappropriately looked at his application, they were all disciplined for it and the head of DHS apologized to Chaffetz. It wasn't right that those agents did that but really for that POS to sit there on Fox TV and try to make it sound like it was Obama's fault? Secret Service Agents Dug Through Personal Info To Discredit Legislator Investigating Agency Wrongdoing | Above the Law
Did you read the last warning in that article? It warns that govern agencies could use info from the NSA database to target people/politicians that they don't like. Interesting. Definitely fits in with this thread.
Did you read the last warning in that article? It warns that govern agencies could use info from the NSA database to target people/politicians that they don't like. Interesting. Definitely fits in with this thread.
I read it but I don't see anything about NSA databases; I believe it refers to personnel databases such as the one that held Chaffetz's job application & that is a problem, I worked in law enforcement and every once in awhile an employee would get caught trying to dig up dirt on an ex or something. Any time you store electronic records and employees have access to them stuff like that happens, it doesn't have anything to do with wiretapping or FISA warrants though.
Making the public allegation is bad enough. For a sitting president to call the former president a "bad sick man" is utterly stunning and horrifyingly inappropriate. I think Trump has shocked people to a point where they are speechless. I'm sure any world leaders who will have to meet with him are terrified of saying anything that this snowflake might take wrong and then turn around and tweet about.
But he's put this out there and he cannot run from this. If it all turns out to be in his head (or Levin's) then he should be toast. It is time to stop enabling his lunacy and normalizing his idiocy. High time.
Can't rep you again but there you have it, in a nutshell. Sad 😭
But surveillance experts — and especially surveillance critics — were quick to note the myriad other routes officials have to get at the banter inside Trump Tower. Through routine data collection programs authorized under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the government gathers information from the internet backbone, which carries web browsing histories and a rapidly increasing amount of telephone traffic. The government discards information that is plainly domestic and searches through the rest using only specific selectors — a phone number or email address, for instance. But Americans’ information that is incidentally collected and determined to contain some foreign intelligence value is fair game for review. Cohn said such data on Americans could include communications that are to, from or about foreign targets the FISA court has already approved for surveillance. For example, if two Trump campaign officials were talking via email about a Moscow official under surveillance, that conversation might get flagged as relevant. How the feds could have listened to Trump’s phone calls - POLITICO
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