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Old 03-15-2017, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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It will be years, if ever, for us to realize the full complex number of things that the previous administration did that we'd be upset about. That statement can be said about any administration, past or present, that has the power we've allowed them to have.

 
Old 03-15-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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I am far from being a Liberal. I am very moderate. More to the left when it comes to social issues and more to the right when it comes to economic issues.

Why do so many of you have to be or claim others as ultra right or ultra left? I think both extremes are bat **** crazy.
Why do people like you always claim you are "more to the left when it comes to social issues and more to the right when it comes to economic issues" as if being more to the right on economic issues is the better way?

Maybe start by explaining what "more to the right on economic issues" even means, and maybe explain WHY whatever that means is better for most Americans (hopefully that's not more of trickle down economics dribble). Maybe by doing so you might learn that maybe you should NOT be right leaning on economic issues. Maybe you might learn that the rich can still get rich, even richer, whether we lean left or right economically, but maybe too what is better for America is when it isn't just the rich who are doing better, but those at the lower rungs of the economic ladder as well!

And by better I don't just mean barely staying above water!
 
Old 03-15-2017, 11:15 AM
 
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I love how liberals suddenly care about taxpayer money. Please show me your proof that it's costing millions.
Trump's one tax return is just one form of proof as to what is truly costing average American tax payers millions of dollars...

We all seem to understand the growing gap between rich and poor in this country is a growing problem, but we don't seem to understand what to do about it, so maybe a focus on illegal immigrants and Obama taps will help! Right! That's the ticket!
 
Old 03-15-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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Smart move by Trump... release taxes from a year that puts him in a good light.... as opposed to the 90s where he write off massive losses...

It distracts folks from the fact that Trump doesn't have any evidence that Obama wiretapped him and it was another baseless claim. A tip of the hat for Trump for some smart politicking.
No argument that politicians politick. Trump has proved to be a master in using techniques that distract and distort. The delight of the talk show hosts and the blogosphere that further feed flames.

But at some point is that there a line that a President should not cross? How did we get from outrage at the Obama Administration spinning the driver of Benghazi attack to praising Trump for his shenanigans?

Sure one might say post-attack spinning involved a more "serious" matter (that of four American deaths) while Trump we should know is not meant to be taken THAT seriously? Not take an American President seriously? Let's see how well that will work out. Right now he's just accused Obama of trying to throw the election.

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Old 03-15-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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I really and truly hope that if the Democrats ever initiate impeachment proceedings against Trump, they do it for something better than, "Trump said something stupid again!"

Then there is the fact that Trump trolls. He says something that is slightly inaccurate, but which points towards a truth that he wants the media to focus on. Like when he tweeted about Pence getting lectured by the cast of Hamilton. In that case, he tricked liberals and progressives into make fun of safe spaces, special snowflakes and being too thin skinned. This time around, I'm guessing he's trying to draw attention to how easy it is for the government to spy on Americans. It is particularly troubling that any sitting president has the capability to spy on the opposition. It is far too easy to do so. Even if Obama and his administration did nothing wrong, it is deeply troubling that he and other presidents could. IMHO, that is the bigger story here.
Astounding. Let me get this straight. You're trying to promote the idea that Trump's tweets are really a matter of subtle brilliance deliberately designed to draw attention to obscured matters that everybody else is somehow missing?

Are you really saying this? And expecting people to buy it?

I feel like F Troop has become reality and Agarn and O'Rourke are trying to keep the world from finding out who Captain Parmenter really is so they can keep trading with the Hekawis.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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Astounding. Let me get this straight. You're trying to promote the idea that Trump's tweets are really a matter of subtle brilliance deliberately designed to draw attention to obscured matters that everybody else is somehow missing?

Are you really saying this? And expecting people to buy it?

I feel like F Troop has become reality and Agarn and O'Rourke are trying to keep the world from finding out who Captain Parmenter really is so they can keep trading with the Hekawis.
Some Millennials need to spend less time engrossed in the truly very excellent cable tv shows of the last decade that celebrate the anti-hero and more time reading history.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Moments ago in a briefing to the press....


"House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Republican Representative Devin Nunes said Wednesday that neither he nor the ranking Democrat on the committee have seen any evidence that then-President Barack Obama wiretapped Donald Trump last year, and want the Justice Department to respond to their requests for information by March 20."


ZERO evidence thus far presented by Trump and his administration (the original deadline to present evidence was Monday March 13th). Trump and his staff now have until March 20th.
 
Old 03-15-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Some Millennials need to spend less time engrossed in the truly very excellent cable tv shows of the last decade that celebrate the anti-hero and more time reading history.
Or watching 60s sitcoms!
 
Old 03-15-2017, 12:33 PM
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Moments ago in a briefing to the press....


"House Intelligence Committee Chairman, Republican Representative Devin Nunes said Wednesday that neither he nor the ranking Democrat on the committee have seen any evidence that then-President Barack Obama wiretapped Donald Trump last year, and want the Justice Department to respond to their requests for information by March 20."


ZERO evidence thus far presented by Trump and his administration (the original deadline to present evidence was Monday March 13th). Trump and his staff now have until March 20th.
And in the same briefing it was mentioned there was ZERO evidence the Trump campaign was working with the Russians during the election..
 
Old 03-15-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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And in the same briefing it was mentioned there was ZERO evidence the Trump campaign was working with the Russians during the election..
Pick your poison, conservatives. You can't have it both ways.

If conservatives say "there is no information/evidence" about Trump working with Russia, then liberals can say "there is no information/evidence" of Trump's strong accusations that president Obama tapping his phones.

Both situations are still under investigation....
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