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Not doing something about ISIS is as bad as not bombing Auschwitz or standing by doing nothing during the awful machete genocide in Rwanda! Never again!
So...are you gonna go to Syria and participate? Or cheer people like me on as we go over unwillingly because we've been trying to fix Iraq since 2006 with very little progress?
And yes I said Iraq because Rabiyah is right there on the border, and the Syrians would bring a ton of stuff over by train to help the insurgents.
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In that case, you should know that rule number one in war is that people die or get maimed including family and friends.
ISIS people are like roaches. You can contain them for a while but they always come back.
How long have we been in Iraq now? Since 2003? And I don't believe for a minute that we left completely in 2011.
....and we're still fighting them....
Guess we didn't learn anything from the crusades.
ISIS is just AQI rebranded with a different name. Yes, they're like roaches.
Yes, since 2003. But things weren't too bad until Saddam was executed (2006) which happened when I first touched down.
We never completely withdrew from either OIF or OEF; I was actually in country when the Obama Administration made that false claim.
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Didn't I say that I have mixed feelings about this?
I only said "I know ISIS needs to be destroyed."
Please don't lecture me, Thank you. I doubt you have any solutions yourself.
Indeed, you did state that you had mixed feelings. I don't know how to destroy ISIS besides containing them to their region of the world. But idiots want open borders, so here we are.
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Curious... Before the inauguration, one of the things Trump supporters here talked a lot about was their hope that Trump would reduce the US's involvement in global conflicts so we could focus our attention and resourc s domestically. How does this fit with that goal?
I'm curious, too. We definitely shouldn't really be the main effort involved, but we shouldn't simply do nothing either. It's a delicate situation.
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I like president Trump, but we should stay OUT of other countries problems. Let them take care of it- none of our business.
I agree, but then what needs to happen is that we employ strict immigration policies in order to reduce the number of potential infiltrators that can enter the US. Problem is that we have a very shaky screening process at best.
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Curious... Before the inauguration, one of the things Trump supporters here talked a lot about was their hope that Trump would reduce the US's involvement in global conflicts so we could focus our attention and resourc s domestically. How does this fit with that goal?
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There is a Bloomberg article about US army working with Russian army to fight Turkey army who are trying to protect one rebel group. There is some drastic change in approach.
Sounds like just another one of those cesspools where it's impossible to know just WHO the 'good-guys' are and that's assuming there are any 'good-guys'.
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Curious... Before the inauguration, one of the things Trump supporters here talked a lot about was their hope that Trump would reduce the US's involvement in global conflicts so we could focus our attention and resourc s domestically. How does this fit with that goal?
Perhaps it's not meant to fit in with that goal but with the one of MORE! MORE! MORE! $$$ for the military. I'll note before the inauguration he also talked of branding China a 'currency manipulator', talk of which has died off since he adopted the 'one-China' policy and had his trademark approved in China.
Curious... Before the inauguration, one of the things Trump supporters here talked a lot about was their hope that Trump would reduce the US's involvement in global conflicts so we could focus our attention and resourc s domestically. How does this fit with that goal?
I can't speak for ALL Trump supporters. I supported Trump because he said, "You cannot fight two wars at the same time."
Both Hillary and Trump will have to defeat ISIS, war is unavoidable no matter who won presidency. It is just the reality. 100% isolationism is not reality for America. Come on, now.
This said,
Although Iraqis have often expressed opposition to a US military presence on the ground in Iraq, most pro-Western Kurds have been in favour of a US military presence on the ground and have even called for establishing US military bases in Kurdistan to protect the stateless Kurds against their hostile neighbours.
Also, the Kurdish security chief Masrour Barzani in the past talked about the need for more coalition ground forces to fight ISIS.
“So there must be some ground forces so they can go after them, to fight them. It depends on how quickly the West wants to destroy ISIS. If they want to do it quickly, then there is a need for efficient and effective ground forces to go after them [ISIS],” Barzani said in 2015.
“If they [Coalition] are waiting for the local forces to be ready to do this job then it will take a longer time,” he said.
So...are you gonna go to Syria and participate? Or cheer people like me on as we go over unwillingly because we've been trying to fix Iraq since 2006 with very little progress?
And yes I said Iraq because Rabiyah is right there on the border, and the Syrians would bring a ton of stuff over by train to help the insurgents.
ISIS is just AQI rebranded with a different name. Yes, they're like roaches.
Yes, since 2003. But things weren't too bad until Saddam was executed (2006) which happened when I first touched down.
We never completely withdrew from either OIF or OEF; I was actually in country when the Obama Administration made that false claim.
Indeed, you did state that you had mixed feelings. I don't know how to destroy ISIS besides containing them to their region of the world. But idiots want open borders, so here we are.
I'm curious, too. We definitely shouldn't really be the main effort involved, but we shouldn't simply do nothing either. It's a delicate situation.
I agree, but then what needs to happen is that we employ strict immigration policies in order to reduce the number of potential infiltrators that can enter the US. Problem is that we have a very shaky screening process at best.
So...are you gonna go to Syria and participate? Or cheer people like me on as we go over unwillingly because we've been trying to fix Iraq since 2006 with very little progress?
And yes I said Iraq because Rabiyah is right there on the border, and the Syrians would bring a ton of stuff over by train to help the insurgents.
ISIS is just AQI rebranded with a different name. Yes, they're like roaches.
Yes, since 2003. But things weren't too bad until Saddam was executed (2006) which happened when I first touched down.
We never completely withdrew from either OIF or OEF; I was actually in country when the Obama Administration made that false claim.
Indeed, you did state that you had mixed feelings. I don't know how to destroy ISIS besides containing them to their region of the world. But idiots want open borders, so here we are.
I'm curious, too. We definitely shouldn't really be the main effort involved, but we shouldn't simply do nothing either. It's a delicate situation.
I agree, but then what needs to happen is that we employ strict immigration policies in order to reduce the number of potential infiltrators that can enter the US. Problem is that we have a very shaky screening process at best.
I have friends who are active duty. They are all ready for war.
I have mixed feelings about this. I don't want any wars, but I know ISIS needs to be destroyed.
Dear Lord, walk with these Marines Each and every day.
My sentiments exactly!
I hope that if we are going in there actively, especially on the ground, that we have proper rules of engagement, that all the military personnel there are equipped as well as they need to be, and that it is a quick, effective and efficient action and then we get out fast (with no apologies) and bring our forces home safely.
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