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Did I touch on a nerve here? Are you one of those who voted for Trump and will find yourself unable to afford insurance soon? Tsk..
I really don't give a hoot about the Trumpsters who voted for the orange buffoon into office and are now reaping what they are sowing... Like evilcart, I too live in a blue donor state and also get free insurance.
Hopefully, the reports in the article will expose the hypocrisy of what Trump is doing and get folks to contact their reps in Congress to demand better!
How do you get free insurance?
Or do you mean employer provided insurance?
"A new analysis by Nate Cohn of the Upshot confirms that Trump supporters may have the most to lose from the GOP plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. This chart summarizes its key finding, which is that those groups that stand to lose the most in subsidies to pay for health coverage on the individual market backed Trump
.... the GOP plan, which replaces Obamacare’s subsidies with a tax credit scheme, ends up offering less financial assistance to older, lower-income Americans, particularly in rural areas where premiums are higher — groups that tended to support Trump. On top of that, the plan would permit for higher premiums on older Americans (which is one reason AARP opposes it)."
With the decrease in financial assistance, when you have to pick between feeding your family (not an iphone!) OR healthcare, which do you think people will pick?
1 they continue to support populists like Trump and we can bask in the knowledge that they are hurting themselves much more than they are hurting the left.
2 They learn a hard lesson and either retreat from supporting the right, or shift back to the left.
either one works for me, I feel sorry for their kids, but the adults chose to vote for Trump. Now they can enjoy the fruits. Lower pay, higher taxes, no healthcare and the never ending brain drain. That is what your guys voted for, and that is what you get.
Many of us blue state people are fine. Our states are busy knocking back his bs, and will continue to do so. Maybe we will lose some battles but we will win many of them.
When was the last time you and your buddies won a battle?
Watching him scream and yell in Nashville tonight, surrounded by adoring rubes who probably don't know the difference between a stethoscope and a dipstick reminds me that the abortion presently called the (whatever they are calling it) hurting these rubes is really not going to upset me one bit.
Let 'em suffer. They literally asked for it. (My sympathies to thinking people)
"A new analysis by Nate Cohn of the Upshot confirms that Trump supporters may have the most to lose from the GOP plan to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. This chart summarizes its key finding, which is that those groups that stand to lose the most in subsidies to pay for health coverage on the individual market backed Trump
.... the GOP plan, which replaces Obamacare’s subsidies with a tax credit scheme, ends up offering less financial assistance to older, lower-income Americans, particularly in rural areas where premiums are higher — groups that tended to support Trump. On top of that, the plan would permit for higher premiums on older Americans (which is one reason AARP opposes it)."
With the decrease in financial assistance, when you have to pick between feeding your family (not an iphone!) OR healthcare, which do you think people will pick?
Did I touch on a nerve here? Are you one of those who voted for Trump and will find yourself unable to afford insurance soon? Tsk..
I really don't give a hoot about the Trumpsters who voted for the orange buffoon into office and are now reaping what they are sowing... Like evilcart, I too live in a blue donor state and also get free insurance.
Hopefully, the reports in the article will expose the hypocrisy of what Trump is doing and get folks to contact their reps in Congress to demand better!
I am surely no Trump supporter, my BS detector started going off the first time I saw he was running for office. But I know plenty of my neighbors who voted for him that I do "give a hoot" about. Just because they made a foolish decision at the ballot box does not mean they are worthless, or that they are all "rubes" or "hicks". That was more or less what Clinton was saying with her "basket of deplorable" statement which I thought was a stupid generalization. She surely said some dumb stuff at times. Clearly there are some hard liners and far Right whackos supporting Trump that I DON'T condone in any way, but many rural and blue collar Americans voted for him in good faith. They are going to get screwed, along with the rest of us, and I have a lot of empathy for them.
I am surely no Trump supporter, my BS detector started going off the first time I saw he was running for office. But I know plenty of my neighbors who voted for him that I do "give a hoot" about. Just because they made a foolish decision at the ballot box does not mean they are worthless, or that they are all "rubes" or "hicks". That was more or less what Clinton was saying with her "basket of deplorable" statement which I thought was a stupid generalization. She surely said some dumb stuff at times. Clearly there are some hard liners and far Right whackos supporting Trump that I DON'T condone in any way, but many rural and blue collar Americans voted for him in good faith. They are going to get screwed, along with the rest of us, and I have a lot of empathy for them.
Maybe you guys should wait and see what happens.
Nah, that wouldn't make any sense.
And anyway, everything is just so "great" under the collapsing and unaffordable Obamacare.
Right.
My own position: let it collapse, and don't replace it with anything.
Trump's hard-line supporters don't care. You have to understand their insane reasoning to see how we got here:
- Bigotry is a big part of it for some of them. They honestly don't care if they are worse off provided the people they hate are MUCH worse off
- Everything is always "somebody else's fault" or "the fault of the government" with those types. They lack the wit and self-reflection to understand that their actions have consequences. It wouldn't matter if you showed it to them in simple terms; they still will never admit that their voting for the Dumpster led to them being worse off. It will always be the fault of: "The Democrats / the government / minorities / the black, gay, Muslim coal miners that stole all their jobs."
Facts are useless when dealing with people that have no interest in them and who are motivated by various forms of hatred above all else: hatred of minorities, hatred of government, hatred of "evil liberals, etc." If Trump personally walked into their town, shut down all the jobs, and burned it to the ground, these types would STILL blame "Obama," and then would blame the government agencies that Trump de-funded for failing to help them fast enough... while at the same time considering that "proof that government is useless" - and thus they'd go out and vote for Trump again.
Are all Trump supporters like this? No, of course not. On the other hand, I know plenty of them, and not a single one of them lacks some form of bigoted or fact-free, anti-government motivation. They'll gladly cut off their nose to spite their face and wreck the nation just to prove their point. Sadly, with far too many of them, facts no longer matter. They'll just keep on voting Republican and against their nation as long as they can.
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